2011-09-30 22:02:18Eric Pickles
Paul D


I know Americans have their pet hate politicians. My UK one is Eric Pickles, who this week is again trying to re-instate weekly (non-recycling) waste collections, which he claims is a 'basic right'. Over 50% of UK councils do fortnightly waste/refuse collections and fortnightly recycling collections.

I can only assume he is going to take it to the United Nations so that all 6 billion of Earths inhabitants have this basic right.

What is really crazy is that the coalition is claiming that they want less central government influence on local government, yet they find £250million for this Pickles project to manipulate local councils. It's left wing ideology wrapped up in a Conservative wrapper.

2011-09-30 22:22:58
Paul D


Just did a search of the government petitions site and noticed the huge number (not) of responses in support of weekly collections:


Why is one a duplicate and there are about 3 or 4 very similar petitions??

2011-09-30 23:23:34


I have noticed the Mail newspaper has been active in lobbying for weekly connections


But there is a backlash!


On the other hand this petition doesn't seem a bad idea, providing people don't steal out of one anothers bins!


I was disappointed the chip and weigh system was rejected.

BTW I resubmitted that climate change education petition, slightly rewritten, and a note explaining how it differed from the environmental education one. 

It was thrown out within days for being a duplicate without explanation!

2011-09-30 23:51:40
Paul D


There's something fishy going on. There seems to be some bias or poor management of those petitions, why was your one petition rejected twice but a couple of similar petitions supporting Pickles accepted??

2011-10-01 00:09:31
Mark Richardson

Great use of £250 million in a country that's really trying to cut its budgets. ::)

2011-10-01 00:31:08
John Mason


In a world where  malnutrition is widespread, this one comment by Pickles:

"‘It’s a basic right for every Englishman and woman to be able to put the remnants of their chicken tikka masala in their bin without having to wait two weeks for it to be collected.’ "


makes me think "wanker".

Cheers - John

2011-10-01 00:56:17
Paul D



In a statement, the CIWM said the £250m could have been better spent on widening the range of materials collected for recycling, especially food waste, which it said was the main area of householder concern regarding collection frequency.

A pearl of wisdom from the people that know their business.

2011-10-01 01:51:22


My local authority has recently distributed small brown bins to every single house.

They are marked 'waste food'.

I refuse to do so.

But seriously, there was zero consultation or notification.


As to weekly collections - I am strongly in favor.  We used to use metal bins, but now we use plastic bags.  Fortnightly collections mean that smelly bags of rubbish are to be found in backyards or gardens instead of at recycling depots or landfill sites.  In consequence of reduced collection rates and the use of plastic bags there has been a significant rise in the number of rats and urban foxes.  Today - rats.  Tomorrow - epidemics.


btw, I never waste food.  Stale bread goes to the ducks and swans.  Nothing else gets wasted, I wouldn't throw food away even if I could afford to.

2011-10-01 01:59:56
Paul D


Logicman, the problem is people wasting food (25% to 30%).
Bins don't smell if you use food wisely.

2011-10-01 03:08:34


Quite right Paul.

Actually it is far more than that if you count the farm waste rejected for having the wrong size & shape.  Then there is overeating. 

Overall, I estimate we buy about double the food we actually need to live in the Western world. Of course to achieve those yields we need high levels of nitrogen fertiliser with the associated N20 emissions and other pollutant runoff.