2011-01-29 15:28:18Heavier snows may stick around, climate experts say
John Hartz
John Hartz

"Heavier snows may stick around, climate experts say", McClatchy News, Jan 28, 2011

A very well written article with lots of scientific information.

Read more: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2011/01/28/107655/heavier-snows-may-stick-around.html#ixzz1COWd6qMG

2011-01-29 18:17:56The "winters in 2008/2009" argument needs to be made more generic
John Cook


Eg - have a general 'cold winter doesn't disprove global warming' rebuttal.

On the other hand, each winter has it's own unique thing - 2 years ago, the NH winter was due to an extreme Arctic oscillation. 1 year ago, high pressure system in the Arctic (is that the same as extreme AO?)

So maybe we need to have an overarching winter rebuttal and then individual ones to address each year.

2011-01-29 19:09:50

Subsidiary point, which comment I added to the list: A cold winter in North America is also a warm winter in the Arctic, so globally it's a wash. A fan only moves air around, it doesn't affect average temperature.