2012-01-28 10:06:04A place to report any apparent errors that can't be resolved through the cloud sourcing interface.
Glenn Tamblyn

glenn@thefoodgallery.com...
60.229.36.164

Errors in the Database

Importing SkS scientists I found the following that seemed strange - duplicated, confusion over whe was who etc.

 

A Ridgwell (Paleo) vs A J Ridgwell (Geoengineering)
B Pittock vs A B Pittock (CSIRO)
J Gregory vs JM Gregory - the same?
Harris, Ca, vs Harris C. Catherine vs Charles
R Prinn vs RG Prinn
"Changing Trends In Sulfur Emissions In Asia: Implications For Acid Deposition, Air Pollution, And Climate" does not involve Michael Mann.
Neither does "Climate Change Impedes Scleractinian Corals As Primary Reef Ecosystem Engineers"
Amann, M is not Mann, M
Zimmermann, M is  not Mann, M
CJ Chung vs C Chung
Ke-Zhen Jiang vs Xiao-Xue Jiang vs K. Jiang

2012-01-29 08:13:54other errors
Sarah
Sarah Green
sarah@inlandsea...
67.142.177.26

I'm finding cases where:

1. The listed author is not the corresponding author.

2. The paper seems very far removed from climate science.

This one has both problems:

Enhanced Role Of Al Or Ga-doped Graphene On The Adsorption And Dissociation Of N(2)o Under Electric Field Lv, Ya; Zhuang, Gl; Wang, Jg; Jia, Yb; Xie, Q (2011) Physical Chemistry Chemical Physics

Maybe the page needs a checkbox to flag papers that need a closer look.

2012-01-29 09:20:08
MartinS

mstolpe@student.ethz...
129.132.210.237

@Sarah:

I have also observed such "far away from climate" papers, for example one about SF6 separation from a gas mixture. In the paper you mention, N2O is in the title, maybe a reason that it's listed here?

2012-01-29 09:48:29
Sarah
Sarah Green
sarah@inlandsea...
67.142.177.26

And I found one that's been retracted (due to self-plagerism):

RETRACTED: UK scenario of islanded operation of active distribution networks with renewable distributed generators

  • S.P. ChowdhuryaCorresponding author contact informationE-mail the corresponding author
  • S. Chowdhurya
  • P.A. Crossleyb
  • C.T. Gaunt
Renewable EnergyVolume 34, Issue 12, December 2009, Pages 2585–2591
2012-01-29 12:51:20Far away papers
John Cook

john@skepticalscience...
121.215.212.33

The methodology we've adopted is to include all articles in the Web of Science database that match the topic search 'global climate change' or 'global warming'. We're mirroring Naomi Oreskes' methodology of 'global climate change' but expanding it to include 'global warming' papers, to provide a larger sample size. I think the most practical way forward is to adhere to this method - very slippery subjective slope if we start eliminating papers based on whether we deem them appropriate or not - where do you draw the line?

However, on the other hand, great idea to flag potential problems and this is a very useful thread. I will add functionality allowing SkSers to deal with these kind of issues - duplicate authors, retracted papers, etc. At the moment, the database is like a big chunk of clay that we are gradually shaping into a work of art :-)

2012-01-29 17:09:41
Glenn Tamblyn

glenn@thefoodgallery.com...
124.176.151.39

A couple more..

 

"Development And Environmental Improvements Of Plastics For Hydrophilic Catheters In Medical Care: An Environmental Evaluation" Is this a climate paper?

"Evolution of paleo sea-surface conditions over the last 600 years in the Mackenzie Trough, Beaufort Sea (Canada)" Author is Thomas Richerol, not Richefol

2012-01-29 18:33:37Adding a comment field?
BaerbelW

baerbel-for-350@email...
93.231.168.69

Could it help to add a "neutral" comment field to the database where we could add information like what is mentioned in this thread? More often than not this field would stay empty, but in addition to directly flagging issues we'd also have an option to add information about where we searched already but still could only put a "?" in the email field. This might save time later in repeating what has already been tried.

2012-01-29 21:46:53
Rob Painting
Rob
paintingskeri@vodafone.co...
118.92.76.131

So what happens when your author is a lead author on climate-related papers that aren't listed? I'm probably not paying attention, but what's the deal? I've run across few.

Like this guy: Peter M Kammer. This paper isn't showing up next to his name

2012-01-29 22:11:09
John Cook

john@skepticalscience...
121.215.212.33

Rob, if it isn't coming up in our list, then it doesn't come up in the Web of Science database under 'global warming' or 'global climate change' which means the authors didn't list those keyphrases.

Pity, that paper would've been an explicit endorsement of AGW, right there in the title.

General principle here - we have to stick to the policy of the WoS search which means some papers may seem on the edge, others should be there that aren't. That's just how this kind of search works. One thing though is Ari's interesting idea of testing consensus across different types of journals might help examine this issue in more detail - see whether the level of endorsement changes as you get into journals further and further away from climate.

2012-01-29 22:39:33
Rob Painting
Rob
paintingskeri@vodafone.co...
118.92.76.131

We're missing out on a lot of papers then. I'm familiar with some of the names and know they have a lot of other papers but only a few show up here. Yeah, and there's some really dodgy ones that don't seem to have anything to do with global warming.

No worries, I often don't pay attention when learning something new. Now I know.

2012-01-29 22:42:53
Rob Painting
Rob
paintingskeri@vodafone.co...
118.92.76.131

This author Ling Cao is attached to papers by Long Cao.

2012-01-30 01:04:23more author confusion
Sarah
Sarah Green
sarah@inlandsea...
67.142.177.25
  1. Takaya Yamamoto
  2. Tomoko Yamamoto
  3. Takao Yamamoto

All listed as T. Yamamoto.

2012-01-30 01:10:59
Sarah
Sarah Green
sarah@inlandsea...
67.142.177.25

Another type to flag:

Second author is corresponding here, first author can't be found. So we need a way to tag/add a different author.

Energy Budget In Organic And Conventional Olive Groves Kaltsas, Am; Mamolos, Ap; Tsatsarelis, Ca; Nanos, Gd; Kalburtji, Kl (2007)Agriculture Ecosystems & Environment

Andreas P. Mamolos 

mamolos@agro.auth.gr

2012-01-30 01:13:54
Sarah
Sarah Green
sarah@inlandsea...
67.142.177.25

And maybe a checkbox for "needs a lot more research or language expertise".

I'm having trouble finding an address for De-Fu Liu in this one:

http://www.cnki.com.cn/Article/CJFDTOTAL-CHIU201002009.htm

2012-01-30 07:32:15
MartinS

mstolpe@student.ethz...
129.132.210.251

Johnson, DM is more than one person.

- Dana M. Johnson

- Daniel M. Johnson

2012-01-30 11:47:33
Sarah
Sarah Green
sarah@inlandsea...
67.142.177.22

oops:

I can't find any emails for anonymous!!:

Add email for [Anonymous]

These all seem to be trade journals, anyhow.

I had another few from Chemical and Engineering News- also not peer reviewed science.

2012-02-02 07:01:51
Rob Honeycutt

robhon@mac...
98.207.62.223

As I've been adding email addresses occasionally just after I hit the "add email" button I notice that I left in a parenthesis or forgot to take out spaces in the email address or leading the email address.  So, there's going to have to be some scrubbing of the data done.

Just hit 500.  I'm shooting for 1000.

2012-02-02 07:12:44Scrubbing
John Cook

john@skepticalscience...
121.215.212.33
You can search names so if you make an error, I suggest searching the name and fixing it on the fly.

Ok, you were right about the smoking :-)

2012-02-02 08:52:22
Rob Honeycutt

robhon@mac...
98.207.62.223

Interesting.  I'm often finding when we have only one paper listed for an author, when I go and search for that person's name in google I'm finding from 3 or 4 more papers, sometimes up to a dozen or more that we don't have.

I think our list is only scratching the surface.

2012-02-02 09:01:30
Rob Honeycutt

robhon@mac...
98.207.62.223

John...  I know in excel I can use "clean()" ...or at least I think that's what it was... to pull out any spaces in a piece of text that isn't suppose to have any.  I know that there have been a number of times these have already slip by and I'd have no way to find them again.  Plus I'm sure they're sometimes sneaking through without my even noticing.  And it's likely happening to everyone else.  I think this is just part and parcel to manually collecting addresses.

It seems like it might be a little pointless to catch it on the fly if we're going to have to clean the data anyway.  Might as well just save the few moments of fixing (except in case of a bad error) and let it get caught automatically in the cleaning later.

And for the smoking...  Yeah, my fingertips are a bit singed at this point but I have to press on with my lead over Martin.  I know he's coming back for more.

2012-02-02 11:12:52clean()
John Cook

john@skepticalscience...
130.102.158.12

I'll probably write some PHP code that cleans out all spaces or other email-unfriendly-characters from any email fields that have @ in them (so we know it's a valid email address).

Martin seems to be making another play, doesn't want to fall away from the pack.

2012-02-02 16:03:51
jyyh
Otto Lehikoinen
otanle@hotmail...
85.78.1.119

*Ass. Prof. Hiromasa Ohmi 

Pfc-free Dry Etching Method For Si Using Narrow-gap Vhf Plasma At Subatmospheric Pressure

connects very loosely with the subject of the site.

*Mr.Wirawat Waya doesn't have an email, he states at:

http://www.thailand-energy.info/view_res.asp?lang=en&ResId=45028

*Are there two Jianping Huangs working on aerosols??

hjp /at/ lzu.edu.cn (put this lanzhou address for the author since publications of jianping.huang /at/ yale.edu didn't include the paper in the list.)

 

2012-02-02 16:47:24
Rob Painting
Rob
paintingskeri@vodafone.co...
118.92.39.88

"I think our list is only scratching the surface"

Yup, I've come to that conclusion too.

2012-02-03 15:39:51
jyyh
Otto Lehikoinen
otanle@hotmail...
193.64.22.37

Added two Hu JH's 
jinhuang (2005, chemistry papers)

junghua (2009, economy)

2012-02-03 16:45:03Scratching the surface
John Cook

john@skepticalscience...
121.215.212.33

Let's be clear, what we're doing here is not compiling every climate paper written over the last 20 years. When you're doing a survey of this sort, you need to set very strict boundaries on how you assemble your sample to eliminate subjectiveness. We decided to follow Oreskes' 2004 methodology - all "global climate change" papers from the Web of Science database, selecting only science journals and only articles (not reviews, editorials, etc). We added "global warming" papers to expand the sample size from 3000 to 12000. It's not comprehensive as not all climate papers put either of those two phrases in the abstract or keywords. But the point of a survey is not to include every single member of the population but to take a sample that is representative of the whole. 12000 papers is certainly a sizeable sample (Oreskes 2004 only had 928 papers).

If we wanted to go bigger, we could include "climate change" papers, which would then swell the sample size to 70,000 papers. But it's not necessary for what we want to determine. We're not out to discover every rejection paper ever published - but to determine the proportion of papers and determine the trend between endorsement and rejection papers over time. With a sample size at 12,000, the result should be robust (really, that many papers is overkill) and expanding the sample size should yield the same conclusion.

2012-02-04 09:25:23German names
BaerbelW

baerbel-for-350@email...
93.231.141.195

While adding emails I noticed several occasions where for some German our Austrian scientists their surname wasn't spelled quite right. Here is an example:

http://www.skepticalscience.com/tcp.php?Action=Scientist&s=27016

The scientist's name is "Sascha Flögel" but the last name is shown as "Flogel" (without the dots) in the TCP-databse. Usually, a name like this would be spelled "Floegel" if the "ö" cannot be used. The same goes for "ä" ("ae") and "ü" ("ue"). If somebody looks for a German name (or word) containing one of these what we call "Umlaute", they do it via the two-letter version instead of just leaving out the dots).

Cheers

Bärbel (or Baerbel)

2012-02-04 09:50:28Misspelt surnames
John Cook

john@skepticalscience...
121.215.212.33

This would be a WoS thing, that's how they enter the names in their database. Probably safe not to play with that in case I need to import more WoS data and do more author matching.

2012-02-04 10:00:49
Rob Painting
Rob
paintingskeri@vodafone.co...
118.93.103.123

JC - 70,000 papers on climate change/global warming would definitely have an impact on the mindset of most non-scientists, more so than 12,000.

Once the results of this survey are done, we'll know how many of those 70,000 papers support the consensus. Is that part of the plan? 

Percentages are good, but big numbers really impress the woman and man in the street.

2012-02-04 10:37:1470,000 is not part of the plan
John Cook

john@skepticalscience...
121.215.212.33

I have in the back of my mind that if TCP is really successful, maybe we can public crowd source the 70,000 papers as a public experiment. But am taking it one step at a time.

2012-02-04 10:54:03
Rob Painting
Rob
paintingskeri@vodafone.co...
118.93.103.123

Don't mean that JC, I mean that the survey will give a good estimate of the number of those 70,000 papers that support the consensus. Is that likely to be discussed at any point? That's the sort of thing that makes it real for non-scientists.

2012-02-04 12:57:27That's too much, now.
jyyh
Otto Lehikoinen
otanle@hotmail...
85.77.64.69

LIU H: three papers, three makers, no emails found. Break.

Hui, Hong and another Hong. Warning: there are at least a couple more by the initial whose research interests border on these three.

2012-02-04 18:15:10How to assign the papers to correct people?
jyyh
Otto Lehikoinen
otanle@hotmail...
193.64.22.150

The three S. Nakamuras

*Dr. Satoshi nsatoshi@affrc.go.jp (Validation of soil organic carbon dynamics model...)

*Prof. Shinichiro nakashin@waseda.jp (Hybrid LCC of Appliances... , Role of Motor Vehicle Lifetime...)

*Prof. Shigeo (Changes in the Cellular and Organismal Stress Responses... el Nino) could be with IUPAC currently shigeonakamura@jcom.home.ne.jp

2012-02-05 01:53:45
Ari Jokimäki

arijmaki@yahoo...
91.154.97.114
Papers by SIMONS, P Authors Journal
Why Global Warming Could Take Britain By Storm Simons, P (1992) New Scientist

This seems to be just a journalistic article, not peer-reviewed. Isn't New Scientist generally a non-peer-reviewed magazine? I also haven't found contact information for Simons.

2012-02-05 08:55:19Simons article
John Cook

john@skepticalscience...
121.215.212.33

That would get relegated as opinion. There are a few "journals" listed in there, another Scientific American, that we are rating as opinion.

2012-02-05 19:09:05four marks please...
jyyh
Otto Lehikoinen
otanle@hotmail...
193.64.22.200

Kim S (Quadruplicate, not yet dared to venture surname Liu )


*Sophanarith Kim, nopkankyo@yahoo.co.jp

United Graduate School of Agriculture, Gifu University-Appropriate Measures For Conservation Of Terrestrial Carbon Stocks

- Analysis Of Trends Of Forest Management In Southeast Asia (corr. auth. nophea-kmpt@dkrz.de, the graduate school renno@gifu-u.ac.jphttp://www.amazon.com/Managing-Small-Forests-Poverty-Alleviation/dp/1440405638/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1328426908&sr=1-1

*Associate Prof. Seungdo kimseun@egr.msu.edu or kimseun@msu.edu

-Enzymes For Pharmaceutical Applications-a Cradle-to-gate Life Cycle Assessment (corr.auth. conchita.j.gonzalez@gsk.com)

-Ethanol Fuels: E10 Or E85-Life Cycle Perspectives

-Life Cycle Assessment Of Various Cropping Systems Utilized For Producing Biofuels: Bioethanol And Biodiesel-Life Cycle Assessment Study Of Biopolymers (polyhydroxyalkanoates) Derived From No-tilled Corn

-Life Cycle Inventory Information Of The United States Electricity System

-Regional Variations In Greenhouse Gas Emissions Of Biobased Products In The United States-corn-based Ethanol And Soybean Oil

*Seonae Kim (no email found) ****ARTICLE ROTATED AND CITED AMONG DENIER DRONE CIRCLE****Applied Meteorology Research Team, Environmental Prediction Research

- Quantitative Estimates Of Warming By Urbanization In South Korea Over The Past 55 Years (1954-2008) (corr auth. mkkim@kongju.ac.kr)


*possibly Associate Prof. Seong-Hee Kim skim@isye.gatech.edu 

-Sustainable Development And Energy Geotechnology - Potential Roles For Geotechnical Engineering (corr. auth rfragasz@nsf.gov)

2012-02-05 20:14:13coordination chemistry of imidazoles and fullerenes (oh dear)
jyyh
Otto Lehikoinen
otanle@hotmail...
193.64.22.200

The paper (in japanese):

"Measurement Method Of The Absorption Fixation Quantity Of Carbon Dioxide By Water Hyacinth (Bunseki Kagaku, 1996)", is possibly a part of the thesis (in Japanese language) of either

Prof Dr. Tomohiko Ishii mail@tishii.com, tishii@eng.kagawa-u.ac.jp
Dr. Nobuyuki Nishiyama rimcofnn@imr.tohoku.ac.jp 

Just so noone else tries to find this one.

(really the tohoku-university (Sendai) people are hard to find, but this is of course no surprise (the quake)) hopefully they can go on with life eventually.


and really there should be some better documentation of some of the papers. 

2012-02-05 21:05:07
John Cook

john@skepticalscience...
121.215.212.33
Jyyh, what to do when you encounter duplicates is given at:

http://skepticalscience.com/thread.php?t=4289&r=3

2012-02-06 01:01:03Wrong author name in database
BaerbelW

baerbel-for-350@email...
93.231.142.101

While looking for papers by Dee, DJ this one was selected:

Ruelle's Linear Response Formula, Ensemble Adjoint Schemes And Levy Flights (edit) Eyink, Gl; Haine, Ywn; Lee, Dj (2004) Nonlinearity

The paper itself shows these authors:

G L Eyink1, T W N Haine2 and D J Lea3

This D J Lea is affiliated with:
3 Applied Physics Laboratory, The Johns Hopkins University, 11100 Johns Hopkins Road, Laurel, MD 20723-6099, USA

whereas Lee, Dj is Lee, Duu-Jong (djlee@ntu.edu.tw)

Department of Chemical Engineering, National Taiwan University, Taipei 106, Taiwan

2012-02-06 06:50:16DJ Lee
John Cook

john@skepticalscience...
121.215.212.33

Baerbel, seems to be two people, can I suggest adding Duu-Jong Lee via the instructions at http://skepticalscience.com/thread.php?t=4289&r=3

2012-02-06 06:55:22Duu-Jong Lee
BaerbelW

baerbel-for-350@email...
93.231.138.226

I already added Duu-Jong Lee (and cleand up most of the DJ Lee's out there), the issue is that the author shown on the paper's website has another last name "Lea" than the one shown in the database. If I can correct this by adding the name and then change the paper's author I can do so. It just looks like a mismatch between the source (aka paper) and the imported data (SkS database) and I javen't come across any other cases like this so far.

2012-02-17 10:52:40Second author is correspondent
skywatcher

andycasely@hotmail...
122.107.164.176

Not been doing much, but thought I'd have a go!

Zheng, Fx; Wang, Xk; Lu, F; Hou, Pq; Zhang, Ww; Duan, Xn; Zhou, Xp; Ai, Yp; Zheng, H; Ouyang, Zy; Feng, Zw (2011) Effects Of Elevated Ozone Concentration On Methane Emission From A Rice Paddy In Yangtze River Delta, China

Corresponding author is Xiaoke Wang, email address: wangxk@rcees.ac.cn

Can't find Feixiang Zheng at either of his affiliated institutions.