2012-03-11 20:38:01...wondering whether the SKS team could look at this article by Stewart Franks
John Cook

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I was wondering whether the SKS team could look at this article by Stewart Franks.

http://theconversation.edu.au/climate-and-floods-flannery-is-no-expert-but-neither-are-the-experts-5709

Not so much the quote mining but his argument against Karoly. 

Franks appears to feeding Bolt and claiming a Karoly led IPCC conspiracy

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/ipcc_reviewer_draws_on_his_favorite_authority_himself/

and

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/the_quotes_that_warmists_claim_dont_exist/

There is little accessible material on evapotranspiration on the web and the papers are behind a paywall so it is difficult to follow the argument.

2012-03-11 21:44:44
Rob Painting
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Yeah, no worries I'll take it apart. I'll just finish off the rebuttal I'm working on (falling clouds bollocks). This is one incredibly deceptive piece of writing by Franks. I'm rather disappointed in The Conversation for publishing it. And yes I've collected a few relevant recent papers on the topics discussed - that's why I'm so disappointed this bullshit was published.

 

 

2012-03-14 12:22:13
John Cook

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Rob, are you still working on this post? A guy I know at the BoM pointed out to me a bunch of links of the Bureau predicting future rain, smashing the myth that they predicted it would never rain again.

http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/ahead/archive/rainfall/20100923.shtml

http://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/article/2010/07/09/206221_grain-and-hay.html

http://theland.farmonline.com.au/news/nationalrural/agribusiness-and-general/general/all-the-signs-point-to-rain-for-east-coast/1879249.aspx?storypage=0

2012-03-14 17:12:16
Rob Painting
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Yup, don't have much time at the mo, but will get er' done. Thanks for the links.

My angle was more the inference by Franks that it's all a "natural cycle" and that La Nina might last for another decade. Sure we're in uncharted territory - the Earth has never experienced such a massive and rapid pulse of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere, so we can't be absolutely certain, but another decade of La Nina seems rather frickin' unlikely.