2011-11-09 20:59:52Idea for moderators: Banned users page
John Cook

john@skepticalscience...
143.238.130.246
What do we think of a page, only available on the forum for moderators or higher, listing all users who've been banned, along with their deleted comments, and maybe short text summating why they were banned. It would help for me, when people come whining to me, to have a readily accessible resource to grab the info I need on why they were banned.
2011-11-09 23:12:36
Daniel Bailey
Daniel Bailey
yooper49855@hotmail...
97.83.150.37

That's a good idea; I'll start putting one together.

It will have to be a representative sample of comments, as SkS was very tolerant with them.

2011-11-10 15:49:34No, I'll do it automatically
John Cook

john@skepticalscience...
130.102.158.12

Why do the work when the code can do it for you? I'll whip something up now, shouldn't take too long...

2011-11-10 16:21:22Okay, done
John Cook

john@skepticalscience...
130.102.158.12

Have created a page that lists all banned SkS users:

http://www.skepticalscience.com/moderator.php?Action=Banned_List

Click on any name to see all their deleted comments.

This is the first step in my creating a Moderator Hub of some sort, where all manner of useful info will be made available to moderators. So let me know what you'd like to see in this section.

2011-11-10 16:27:43Edit Bio field to add Details to the banned user page
John Cook

john@skepticalscience...
130.102.158.12

BTW, Daniel, if you edit the User field 'Bio', on the Banned user page, it will show that text. This is a way to add text like "was posting inflammatory comments repeatedly so banned" - just a single line that gives others a cue as to why they were banned. Currently, only Admins can edit the Bio field.

2011-11-10 16:39:52Sort order
BaerbelW

baerbel-for-350@email...
93.231.146.208

I'm wondering if it's more handy to have the posts sorted descending by posted date? That way the most recent transgression(s) would show up at the top and you don't have to scroll all the way down to the bottom. We'd also know when the poster was banned. On the other hand, reading - if anybody is up to that! - in chronological order also has its advantages.

Also, how about adding the IP-Address and make it another field to sort by? That way, we'd have a means to perhaps more easily spot repeat offenders.

2011-11-10 16:45:53
Daniel Bailey
Daniel Bailey
yooper49855@hotmail...
97.83.150.37

Got it, John.  I did do that for some, even to the point of noting when Warnings had been issued.  But it was pretty much dictated by my available time (so needless to say, that was a spotty behavior).

Echo Baerbel's sentiments on being able to run IP queries.  At least for the Admins.  The sock-puppets could no longer hide.

2011-11-10 20:26:50IP address
John Cook

john@skepticalscience...
143.238.130.246
Was gonna include the IP addresses but in discussion about security, am wondering about privacy issues and how to handle making private data like that. Hadn't really thought about it till now but is an issue definitely worth thinking about.
2011-11-10 23:08:53IP-addresses
BaerbelW

baerbel-for-350@email...
109.43.251.112
At the falcon-forum I help moderate, all admins/moderators have access to members' IP-addresses - even in all the posts published. I therefore don't think that it's a big deal making the IP-addresses available here in the forum.
2011-11-10 23:16:29
Daniel Bailey
Daniel Bailey
yooper49855@hotmail...
97.83.150.37

I would note that the IP addresses:

  • only have limited value due to containing geographic X,Y coordinates of the ISP (not the user)
  • would have to be considered in a limited-use domain, as by participating in this private forum the user grants that knowledge as a concession.  For us to make those IP's public we would need to warn the user in advance when they signed up to gain the right to post comments.  But since the IP's would be listed in a secure environment to those who had a need-to-know, then it should be fine (but I'm no lawyer; haven't even played one on tv)
  • Admin's (at least the Super-Admin's) already have access to those IP's now; you would just be creating an administrative tool to help curb violations of existing house policies

So don't consider granting limited access in a private forum to trusted individuals a breach of privacy.  Not like we're posting credit card numbers on Facebook.

2011-11-11 06:53:21IP Added
John Cook

john@skepticalscience...
143.238.130.246

Have added the IP when the user signs up (at the top of the page) and the IP at the moment the comment is posted is shown beneath each comment.