2011-02-19 15:32:19Comments Policy
James Wight

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I haven't been an active moderator but I just happened to notice this.

muoncounter recently replied to a comment of Poptech's on the infamous Denominator thread, quoting the Comments Policy as saying:

"Subsequent comments regarding the point in question will be accepted only if they provide new evidence that counters the conclusions of the scientific community or that represents new findings not previously discussed in the blogosphere."

The only problem is... that's what the comments policy used to say. It doesn't say that anymore.

2011-02-19 15:55:54It's in the Notes section on the same page (in red below)
Daniel Bailey
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Comments Policy

The main purpose of the discussion threads is that we all develop a greater understanding of the science. To that end, the following rules must be followed when posting comments:

  • No accusations of deception. Any accusations of deception, fraud, dishonesty or corruption will be deleted. This applies to both sides. Stick to the science. You may criticise a person's methods but not their motives.
  • No ad hominem attacks. Attacking other users or anyone holding a different opinion to you is common in debates but gets us no closer to understanding the science. For example, comments containing the words 'religion' and 'conspiracy' tend to get deleted. Comments using labels like 'alarmist' and 'denier' are usually skating on thin ice.
  • No politics. Rants about politics, ideology or one world governments will be deleted.
  • No link or pic only. Links to useful resources are welcome (see HTML tips below). However, comments containing only a link will be deleted. At least provide a short summary of the content of the webpage to facilitate discussion (and show you understand the page you're linking to). Similarly, images are very welcome as they can be very useful in explaining the science. But comments with pictures in isolation without explanation will be deleted.
  • No ALL CAPS. You can't have a civil, constructive discussion if you're shouting.
  • No profanity or inflammatory tone. Again, constructive discussion is difficult when overheated rhetoric or profanity is flying around.
  • No off topic comments. Stick to the subject at hand. If you have something to say about an unrelated topic, use the Search form in the left margin to find the appropriate page.
  • No copying and pasting from earlier comments. If you wish to refer to earlier comments, you can hyperlink directly to them. To make this easier, note that with each comment, the date/time is a hyperlink. If you link to this URL, clicking on the link will take you directly to that part of the page.

If we all followed these guidelines in any discussion, perhaps the world would be a calmer and more constructive place.

HTML Tips:

HTML Hyperlinks
When posting a URL, it's better to make it an active link for several reasons. Firstly because it makes it easier for readers to follow the link. Secondly, it enables you to use descriptive words for the link rather than a URL. Lastly, and most importantly, long URLs can break the Skeptical Science web design which makes me very unhappy. To post a hyperlink, use the following code:
Description of page you're linking to
Posting Images
You can use HTML code to post an image (eg - a graph). The image needs to be hosted online. The HTML code is:
IMPORTANT: The image must be no wider than 450 pixels. If the image is wider than this, use the width element to resize it to 450 pixels. Eg:

Notes

A free and open discussion is welcome on this site. A quick perusal of past comments reveals that skeptic viewpoints are allowed.

  • Subsequent comments regarding the point in question will be accepted only if they provide new evidence that counters the conclusions of the scientific community or that represents new findings not previously discussed in the blogosphere.

  • Treat everyone with respect. Not all skeptics are right wing thugs paid off by big oil. Neither are all AGWers left wing socialists worshipping at the altar of the Goreacle.
  • No demonising. Rather than discrediting a scientist because of where they get their money or their political leanings, look at the arguments they use.
  • No cheap shots. Discussion shouldn't be about scoring points. Whenever I discuss with a skeptic, I see it as an opportunity for both sides to educate each other. I learn heaps from skeptics who've researched and looked into matters I haven't had time to yet. If they find a flaw in one of your points, concede it and see it as an opportunity to improve your own knowledge.
  • Anyone making ad hominem attacks in the global warming debate will have their comments summarily rejected.
  • Copying and pasting content from your own earlier comments. If you wish to refer to earlier comments, you can hyperlink directly to them. To make this easier, note that with each comment, the date/time is a hyperlink. If you link to this URL, clicking on the link will take you directly to that part of the page.
  • And yes, I am aware that there are past comments that break these rules. As time permits, I will be going through old comments deleting inappropriate comments - from both sides of the debate.
  • 2011-02-19 16:08:15Notes
    James Wight

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    Yes, but the notes are archived text which is only visible to moderators.
    2011-02-19 16:29:54
    Daniel Bailey
    Daniel Bailey
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    Point taken; I was unaware of that.
    2011-02-19 17:53:41Notes
    John Cook

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    I'm gonna have to put a disclaimer on the Notes - they're only visible to authors but there's been several occasions where authors have revered to the notes without realizing this. Sorry about the confusion, folks.
    2011-02-20 15:32:04Notes
    muoncounter
    Dan Friedman
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    I could have gone with 'accusation of deception.'  I didn't know there was a visibility issue, but I don't think it makes any difference to PopT.  At this point, nothing will shut him off.