2011-08-19 21:46:00Species migration greater than expect
Paul D

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Distances moved averages at about 20cm per hour towards the poles over the last 40 years:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/08/110818142727.htm

Some species are more adaptable than others.

2011-08-19 23:47:34More..
Hoskibui

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Since I allready had some links for that, here it comes:

Science Now: In Warming World, Critters Run to the Hills 

Nature Blog: Plants and animals seek cover from climate change  

 

 

2011-08-20 03:49:54
Paul D

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It would be good to have a post about the retreating ice and the advancing species on SkS.

It's a pity that there isn't some sort of layered map of the world that shows it all, with the ability to peel back layers showing the different progressions. There are individual maps of regions, but not a world map.

2011-08-21 16:04:07Paul D
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Peter Miesler
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"It's a pity that there isn't some sort of layered map of the world that shows it all, with the ability to peel back layers showing the different progressions. There are individual maps of regions, but not a world map."

 

Have you seen this?

http://www.geoeye.com/CorpSite/

http://www.archive.org/details/SVS-704

http://oceancolor.gsfc.nasa.gov/SeaWiFS/BACKGROUND/

2011-08-21 18:55:30
Paul D

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Sure there are projects that show different things. But there isn't a climate change project that has all (or a lot) of the indicators shown in a global model.

Maybe a TV programme would be better that avoids making predictions and just shows the progressive nature of the changes, so people can draw conclusions from their own observation.

2011-08-22 16:27:56
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Peter Miesler
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So whatever happened to all the big projects and dreams of the 1970s?

They developed the Ecosphere Global Map* using thousands of satellite images, on a sphere, hooked into computers.  Big talk, big dreams about setting up these grand study centers, basically surround this beautiful global map, with computer work stations.

Thus enableing scientists to program various layers with various information, whatever you wanted.  From weather to plant growth patterns and all that.  That was supposed to give scientists the platform to incorporate new layers reflecting new areas of data.

But, then it just fizzled like so many other things did when Reaguns stepped into the White House and tore out the solar panels.

I know at the Norman, OK, National Weather Service headquarters there's this beautiful globe, playing out weather patterns and city lights, and time lapse of a days jet flights (that's really a trip). 

Why can't some of these existing platforms be expanded to enable what Paul suggests?

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http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2000/ast15nov_1/

 

*I think that was the name they gave it.

2011-08-22 17:19:57
Paul D

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For the 1970s such a project would have been over-ambitious because the technology wasn't available, making it very costly (Even in the 1980s the BBC attempted a modern version of the doomesday book using video disks and computers, they barely got it working). It would be far more practical today. Today as long as the data was publicly availaible then a small company could do it, given some finance. Although such finance would need to be sustained.

2011-08-22 21:03:29
Paul D

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The BBC filed a report two days after I spotted it:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14576664

I suppose we should be grateful that they filed a report at all.

Although this looks like a a mistake:

"Scientists have consistently told us that as the climate warms we should expect animals to head polewards in search of cooler temperatures."

Yes some would 'retreat' northwards, but others would 'advance' northwards. Depending on whether they needed warm or cold climates.