2011-08-08 06:41:51Spencer Strikes Back
John Hartz
John Hartz
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Spencer's post of today (Aug 7) "Is Gore’s Missing Heat Really Hiding in the Deep Ocean?" is already going viral within Denierville.

2011-08-08 08:54:37
Albatross
Julian Brimelow
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I would encourage people here not to give Roy a free pass on this one.  Ask some inconvenient questions, stick to the science as best you can...he seems to be hunting for a wrestle in the mud, so try and be civil.

He is again suggesting that climate sensitivity is ~1.3 C.

As someone noted very recently, Roy is no longer interested in speaking to real scientists, it is all about rhetoric and pseudo-science for him now.

2011-08-08 10:02:37
dana1981
Dana Nuccitelli
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Spencer knows that throwing the name Gore out there is like tossing chum to the sharks.  Classic denialist strategy.  What the heck does Al Gore have to do with the 'missing heat'?

Unfortunately there's too little information in his post to confirm his claims.  At the end of the post he basically says that error bars are a conspiracy.

2011-08-08 10:24:19
Albatross
Julian Brimelow
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Dana,

I know, but still have at him, if not here at Roy's place.  Nicely and calmly and with science take him to task, he is already looking silly.

2011-08-09 02:37:00
Albatross
Julian Brimelow
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Interesting I was posting there under the moniker "Obscurity", that is the name I have used there before, before I adopted Albatross as my moniker.

When presented with facts, it seems that Roy has banned me from his site, as none of my comments this morning have appeared.  OK, bugger up.  There seems to be a problem with his web software-- I can post, I just cannot post "inline" comments.  The fun and games continue. I expect to be banned soon though...

He as also made ad hominem arguments against me and floated some conspiracy theories.  For example,

"The next two studies you mention have not been published (which means since you have access to them, you are a climate research insider, so why don’t you quit hiding your identity?)."

Umm, I found those papers using Google folks.  And regardles, facts stand on their own merit, regardless who the messenger is (or is not).  Really, Spencer is losing it big time.

2011-08-09 02:49:40
dana1981
Dana Nuccitelli
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No question he's becoming more and more paranoid and conspiracy-minded.

2011-08-11 09:13:54
Albatross
Julian Brimelow
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Well, just wasted several hours of my life at Spencer's place....not that I thought I would make any headway there, but it was nice to see them have to think a bit for once and for them to have to contend with oppopsing views.  Oddly enough, they (inlcuding Spencer) really did not seem to like that I kept citing journal papers.  Anyways, no intention of doing that again.

Spencer seems quite happy to let most of his posters roam in a knowledge vacuum.

Near the end Patrick Condon (JeffId) joined, so things may be replicate dat AirVent, hopefully Patrick can do a better job than Roy did.

2011-08-11 09:16:51
Rob Honeycutt

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"Fanaticism is always a sign of repressed doubt."  -- Carl Jung

That's Roy to a tee.