2011-07-26 11:36:11The next climate debate bombshell -- Canadian Free Press
John Hartz
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You heard it here first!

CERN in Geneva—will soon announce that more cosmic rays do, indeed, create more clouds in earth’s atmosphere. More cosmic rays mean a cooler planet

To read the entire article, click here.

 

2011-07-26 11:42:58another pretend science piece by tobacco, GMO, etc lobbist Dennis Avery
Stephen Leahy

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The Canadian Free Press is a horrible webrag pretending to be a news journal - better known for publishing Tim Ball's ramblings and crazy right wing stuff. Sometimes they even lift my stories when it suits their agenda. 

2011-07-26 13:00:23
dana1981
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I love that the page has a "countdown until Obama leaves office" (wrongly assuming that he'll lose his re-election bid in 2012).  Could they make their bias any more obvious?  It's not even an American page!

The article was written by denier Dennis Avery.  Here is the full basis of his claim:

"The CERN experiment is supposed to be the big test of the Svensmark theory. It’s a tipoff, then, that CERN’s boss, Rolf-Dieter Heuer, has just told the German magazine Die Welt that he has forbidden his researchers to “interpret” the forthcoming test results. In other words, the CERN report will be a stark “just the facts” listing of the findings. Those findings must support Svensmark, or Heuer would never have issued such a stifling order on a major experiment."

I guess Avery has no problem interpreting the facts as he sees fit.

2011-07-26 13:09:58
Rob Honeycutt

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OMG!  Talk about a leap in logic!  "Someone may have told someone else not to say anything so therefore my interpretation is obviously correct." 

Damn.  And I've yet to complete construction of my giant size face and palm machine.  What a missed opportunity.

2011-07-26 18:18:56
Paul D

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It's based in the US not Canada. I think the 'owner' is probably a Canadian exile.

2011-07-26 22:20:42
Paul D

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Might be wrong in my last comment. Seems like the owner is just a Canadian nut living in Canada that has found American support via online comms and networks:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judi_McLeod

The design of CFP is so bad it is laughable. Just on that point alone it can be dismissed.

2011-07-27 00:16:47Unbelievable!
John Hartz
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Are you guys telling me that the lead scientist at CERN is not censoring his team of scientists?

2011-07-27 00:56:43
Rob Honeycutt

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I wouldn't be surprised if the whole story is a complete fabrication from Avery.

2011-07-27 01:15:47Rob Honeycutt
John Hartz
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You have just destroyed my faith in humanity!

2011-07-27 02:58:18
Albatross
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"Are you guys telling me that the lead scientist at CERN is not censoring his team of scientists"

No Badger, they are simply advising them to stick to the facts, and not to overstate their findings, and to not exaggerate the implications of the findings-- as was recently done by "skeptics" like Svensmark.  RealClimate covered this.

2011-07-27 02:59:03
Albatross
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So RobH-- yes, Avery's story is a fabrication and conspiracy theory.

2011-07-27 04:29:55
Paul D

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Is that surprising?

I mean the site has a pile of crap for adverts and is poorly designed. Why bother with it??
Their star player is a spotty teenager from Texas who is self taught.

2011-07-27 04:44:03
Albatross
Julian Brimelow
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Yes, I concur with Paul.  This is not worth wasting one's time on.