2011-06-17 02:03:07"Skeptics" and denialists overcome with excitement about solar minimum claim, but hang on....
Albatross
Julian Brimelow
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Saw this over at Revkin's blog...occasionally he does hold the for science.  Be sure to follow the links.

The whole point now seems rather deflated and moot.

2011-06-17 02:19:36A new category of climate denial memes?
John Hartz
John Hartz
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Grasping at straws

2011-06-17 02:46:16
Albatross
Julian Brimelow
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Yup Badger.  But me thinks they know that, but they also know that this kind of stuff is perfect for confusing muddying the waters, claiming that the "science isn't settled" etc.

I'm trying to think of an equivalent analogy for the tobacco vs. cancer 'debate".

2011-06-17 03:06:08Albatross
John Hartz
John Hartz
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The people responsible for creating the pseudo-science poppycock being disgorged by the Climate Denial Spin Machine may be smart to enough to know they are grasping at straws, but the climate denier foot soldeirs may not be.

How about: "Lungs, who needs them?"

2011-06-17 03:13:02
Albatross
Julian Brimelow
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Too true Badger-- how often in our history have "evil" people relied on the oiugnorance of their followers....?

I was thinking of an analogy as it pertians to this solar min kerfuffel.  Something like, "Smokers have no fear, new technology may lead to cigarrettes after 2020 contain fewer carcinogens, so keep on smoking".

 

2011-06-17 05:00:10
dana1981
Dana Nuccitelli
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I think the main story here is that even if there is a grand solar minimum, it will barely make a dent in global warming.  But it's a good point that the denialists are jumping on this hypothetical solar minimum possibility which may very well not even happen.  Where's the skepticism about the solar minimum prediction itself?

2011-06-17 05:15:49
Andy S

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More drivel from Lorne Gunter at the National Post.