2011-06-10 08:34:36Norways fantasy energy politics
oslo

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Norway made a deal with Russia (was it last year) for a separation line in the Arctic with Russia (this has been on the agenda for some 30+ years). The idea is to explore gass and oil reserves in the barents region. Norways prime minister was on national TV yesterday to tell the "happy" news that we are now in the business of exploring energy reserves in the Arctic.

I think that a post on this issue would be apropriate - if Norway persue the idea to exploit oil or gas in the barents sea it would take 10-20 years before we can see a drop of oil or gas from these fields.

I think the whole idea is foolish, and some thought on this at SkS would be apropriate. My thinking goes to contact Belona and ask them to write an article regarding these ideas (they are an environmental organisation in Norway, with funding from Statoil to my knowledge, and they are on top of the issue). Or I'll write something my self for a change.

Any ideas?

2011-06-10 08:46:36
dana1981
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Go for it.  The main thing to highlight is the irony that the Arctic is melting due to global warming and burning of fossil fuels, and now Norway and Russia are seeking to take advantage of this by finding more fossil fuels to burn.  I'd also suggest highlighting that the resources put into trying to get this oil and gas 1-2 decades in the future would be better spent as investments in renewable energy right now.

2011-06-10 09:17:01
oslo

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I have written a mail to the leader of Bellona which was on national TV to argue agains these ideas - I'll see what they come up with before persuing this further (Bellona has 70 emploees in Norway, Russia, EU and US).

For more information on Fredric Hauge (founder of Bellona) see Time Magazine.

2011-06-12 08:07:05
Andy S

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I had a look at as a consultant an "oil" exploration project on the Russian side of the offshore boundary line a few years ago.  I think that this part of the Barents Sea is much more prone to gas than oil, despite what the Russian promoters claimed. Even the huge Shtokman Gas Field, in Russian waters has not been developed yet and probably never will be if shale gas potential elsewhere is anywhere near as big as many think. The low global gas prices caused by shale gas will probably prevent gas developments in Alaska, the Mackenzie Delta and the Labrador Sea too, which is an unintended positive consequence amidst the negatives.

Oil exploration is a different matter and probably there will be companies that think that there are big oil fields worth exploring for in the Barents Sea (as they do in the Beaufort Sea and Eastern Labrador Sea). It's possible that Shtokman may even get developed eventually just for its reserves of gas condensate.

2011-06-13 03:19:28
oslo

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Unfortunately, Bellona has declined the offer of an article at SkS due to their 25-year aniversary next week - they might consider this in the fall, according to their spokeperson.

I'll look out for someone else to give a comment (would like someone with knowledge on energy and oil/gas development and Norways policy especially) - if anyone have ideas, let me know.

2011-06-13 05:40:03Contact info for Diffenbaugh & Shwartz
John Hartz
John Hartz
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Noah Diffenbaugh, Department of Environmental Earth System Science: (650) 725-7510, cell: (650) 223-9425, diffenbaugh@stanford.edu

Mark Shwartz, Woods Institute for the Environment: (650) 723-9296, mshwartz@stanford.edu

2011-06-13 08:17:09
Rob Painting
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Badger, let me guess: you've opened multiple tabs & have written your comment in the wrong tab?

2011-06-13 08:22:05Rob...
John Hartz
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Nope. I figured posting the contact info here was the quckest way to get it to Oslo. I did not want to do it on the public comment thread to his article, Forecast: Permanently Hotter Summers in 20-60 years

2011-06-13 18:53:06
oslo

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Mark Shwartz confirmed that he got the link to the article, so they are informed - I figure he has forwarded the article to Diffenbaugh.

2011-06-14 00:18:53Oslo
John Hartz
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Good job!