2011-06-10 08:55:33Benny Peiser in Daily Mail - Taxes going up; Wealthy to Profit from Green Energy
Stephen Leahy

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".........It's one of the biggest wealth transfers — from millions of ordinary hard-working taxpayers to a few hundred of the hugely wealthy — in British history.

.....Not only is much of the science behind the idea of global warming now being disputed but, at a time of such widespread economic hardship, we simply cannot afford to misdirect scarce economic resources on such a massive scale. Britain needs jobs, it needs industry. What it doesn't need is rows and rows of heavily-subsidised wind turbines

The REAL reason fuel bills are going through the roof? Crackpot green taxes you're never even told about

By DR BENNY PEISER

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2001244/Gas-prices-Fuel-bills-increase-crackpot-green-taxes-youre-told-about.html#ixzz1OoyxvpCe

2011-06-10 13:54:38
dana1981
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Ugh, freaking Peiser is such a scuzzbucket.  Appropriate that this shows up in the Mail, which I equate with the National Enquirer.

2011-06-10 16:39:33
Paul D

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Looks like the Daily Mail are running with the ball on this one, I mentioned an earlier article here:

http://www.skepticalscience.com/thread.php?t=1812&r=0

2011-06-10 17:24:26
Paul D

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I have posted 3 comments on that Daily Mail article Stephen.

Question is, will they be published?

2011-06-10 17:27:49
Paul D

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Is there a Firefox addon that can be set up to automatically clears specific cookies on a click of a button?

Would be really useful for swinging the balance on the Daily Mail comment ratings system.

Even better an addon specially for the Daily Mail to swing the ratings.!

2011-06-10 17:32:23
Paul D

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Maybe this wouid work??

There seems to be a few addons, might be worth trying a few.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/cookieculler/

The ideal addon needs to delete the Daily Mail cookie after a rating button has been pressed.

2011-06-10 17:48:46
Paul D

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Well my comments are up, although maybe they haven't been moderated because you have to click on the all button.

2011-06-10 21:48:36Comment-hijacking
John Mason

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Talking of which, somebody appears to have busted the denialist comment-recommendation phenomenon over at The Guardian. Look for posts by "The Power of X" for details:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/blog/2011/jun/10/climate-sceptics-intelligent-design-multiculturalism?commentpage=last#end-of-comments

Inane posts getting dozens of recommends is something Monbiot and I have been scratching our heads over for a long time. It seems we may now have our answer, but will The Guardian do anything about it???

Cheers - John

2011-06-10 21:59:03
John Mason

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Well, well! The Guardian have deleted the relevant posts!

Luckily I emailed them over to Monbiot, so I have copies:

  •  ThePowerofX

    10 June 2011 12:00PM

    [b]LeoHickman wrote: @ishmael2009, you can stop hitting the recommend button now on your comment. We've got the point.[/b]

    [b]IcicleWorks responded: This keeps getting mentioned but a recommend only works once for me...[/b]

    Disable cookies > recommend >> refresh

    I recommended your comment 10 times in little over one minute.

  •  

    and:

     

    ThePowerofX

    10 June 2011 12:17PM

    johntherock wrote: So THAT'S how they do it!

    It's even easier when you paste the permalink location into automated software like iMacros. You simply press the record button, recommend your own post, then type in a repeat value. Make yourself a cup of tea and come back in 10 minutes and you have 78 recommendations.

    e.g. http://www.guardian.co.uk/discussion/comment-permalink/11115502

    This needs to be sorted out.

     

    Cheers - John

    2011-06-10 22:17:10
    Paul D

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    I think the same thing happened on that Daily Mail article. Some of the skeptic comments had over 100 recomendations.

    Maybe you don't have to actually delete the cookie.

    Added: Disabling cookies doesn't work with the Daily Mail. They either have to be deleted or I guess edited if you know what to edit.

    2011-06-10 22:20:28
    Paul D

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    I notice my Daily Mail comments have a couple of red arrows chalked up.

    2011-06-10 22:40:55
    Paul D

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    There is one tactic that can fool the antagonists, although it isn't so good at getting a message across.

    You can wait until the article is old and if the the comments can still be made, add a comment after everyone else is bored with it.

    Needs a little planning since it is easy to forget old articles.
    The only positive outcome is that if someone comes across the article later via Google, hopefully there would be more 'positive' comments at the top.

    2011-06-12 21:05:22
    Paul D

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    http://www.thegwpf.org/who-we-are/director-dr-benny-peiser.html

    "Benny is a social scientist and a Visiting Fellow at the University of Buckingham"

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Buckingham

    "Buckingham's funding regime is not like that of other UK universities, but rather is on the model of many US universities, as it does not receive direct state funding"

    "Some of the founding academics migrated from the University of Oxford, disillusioned or wary of aspects of the late 1960s' ethos"

    "Its development was influenced by the libertarian Institute of Economic Affairs, in particular, Harry Ferns and Ralph Harris, heads of the Institute"

    "In keeping with its adherence to a libertarian philosophy, the university's foundation-stone was laid by Margaret Thatcher"