2011-06-09 10:36:55Need feedback on Skeptical Science CafePress store
John Cook

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Someone else emailed me saying they want the consensus graphic on a T-shirt so I figured I should get this CafePress thing going sooner than later - and preferably before next week when the Conversation series takes over SkS for a week or two. So I've set up the CafePress store:

http://www.cafepress.com.au/SkepticalScience

Bare bones stuff, I want to keep it simple. So my question - what products should I have? I was thinking just shirts and coffee mugs for now. And even with the shirts, not sure which ones to make available. I'm strongly tempted to have just the organic ones - which are supposedly eco-friendly with a smaller carbon footprint (according to CafePress). Or should I have ordinary shirts on offer as well? Should I have fitted shirts?

I guess what I'm asking is if you hypothetically bought a shirt from http://www.cafepress.com.au/SkepticalScience, which option would you choose - let me know and if we all converge around the same shirt type, it'll help me narrow it down.

2011-06-09 11:16:15
dana1981
Dana Nuccitelli
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I'm generally of the opinion that the more options the better (i.e. offer both fitted and normal). Whether to only offer organic cotton is a good question though. It would probably make sense, but then again it's more expensive, so you might get more sales and thus get the message out more with more options.
2011-06-09 11:40:34Thanks Dana
John Cook

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For your fence sitting advice :-)

2011-06-09 12:19:42
Alex C

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If the organic shirts are so much more expensive, it's unlikely you will get any sales at all with them, especially when compared to the value t-shirts.  Principle doesn't lead the wallet by a factor of 2.

I think more options is the way to go as well - including products.  First line-up be as it may, I think that hats would be another good item to eventually market.  I also like the idea of a design that simply advertises the website - the flame logo, for instance, accompanied by a subtitled "www.skepticalscience.com".

2011-06-09 12:58:18
dana1981
Dana Nuccitelli
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Fence sitting is what I do best! Okay, I'll get off the fence. More options is better. Hopefully people will choose the organic cotton of their own volition.
2011-06-09 17:35:10
Paul D

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Alex C. Look carefully. The value T shirt cotton is very thin compared to the others. You get what you pay for :-)

(I just tried looking at the page again and none of the T-shirts showed up.)

I would buy organic on principle if I was going to buy one. If you are going to display that message on your chest then paying £5 extra for organic isn't a big deal. I don't always buy organic, but my philosophy is often that if I get a discount on a non-organic product, then I say to myself, 'that's going to subsidise the purchase of an organic product', so overall I have paid the equivalent price of two non-organic products that were not discounted. The result is a 20% to 50% consumption of organic products with no significant increase in costs.

2011-06-09 17:39:26
Paul D

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I assume John that you are changing the 'shop'??

I keep visiting and the number of products change.

2011-06-09 19:13:29Changing shop
John Cook

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Yeah, still trying to figure out the CafePress system.

2011-06-09 20:33:15
Paul D

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In defence of 'expensive' organic clothing.
As it happens, I spotted a hole in one of my favourite tops (not a T shirt) yesterday. When I remembered it was organic, I made the effort to get the needle and thread out and repair the hole (which was along a seam). It took about 10 to 20 minutes and looks as good as new now.

The thought that it was a bit special and cost a little more resulted in an effort to make repairs.

2011-06-09 20:54:10
Alex C

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Paul: I know, I did see that.  Would the average customer though is my main point, but perhaps you are right.

A question as well - while I can look it up, maybe an implanted conversion factor between Australian dollars and US dollars, or the euro?  Or do you think that would be unnecessary?

2011-06-09 21:08:42
Paul D

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I don't think the average customer would look at the thickness.
Or they might think about it for a while and mull over the implications of buying one or the other, then make a decision.

It sort of begs the question as to whether transparency really does result in a rational decision.
Maybe if you put the carbon footprint in grammes of CO2 by the side of the price, it would provide better transparent information.

2011-06-09 21:20:55
Paul D

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BTW is there a difference between stating '97 out of 100' and '97 in 100'

???