2011-05-27 09:05:02Skepticalscience.com is not a particularly credible source.
John Hartz
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skepticalscience.com is not a particularly credible source.

In this case, the question is why Mann in his original hockey-stick (northern hemisphere reconstruction) showed no MWP or LIA, which were believed to exist from other sources. JC at skepticalscience.com refutes this discrepancy by merely referring back to a 2009 Mann paper on his reconstructions, where he continues to claim there was no global MWP. This is just hand waving on JC's part.

The paper below, oft refuted by Mann and his friends, points out that Mann's reconstruction is nearly indistinguishable from noise.

http://www.klimarealistene.com/10-08-16%20Temp.%201000%20yrs%20McShane-and-Wyner-2010.pdf


The above was posted by Applegate on the comment thread to the article, "The Heartland Institute: Undermining Science in the Name of the 'Scientific Method' by Chris Mooney posted (May 23) on DeSmog Bolg. 

Applegate was responding to my post citing the SkS rebuttal, “Is the hockey stick broken?”  

Has the paper cited by Applegate been addressed head-on in any of the numerous SkS post about the Hockey Stick?

If you are inclined to rebute Applegate directly, you can access the article and comment thread at:

http://www.desmogblog.com/heartland-institute-undermining-science-name-scientific-method?page=1

2011-05-27 10:13:48
Daniel Bailey
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Read this, this and this for starters.

Then go with this and this.

2011-05-27 12:09:27Daniel Bailey
John Hartz
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Daniel,

Muchos gracias!