2011-05-24 07:56:57Akasofu 2010
Rob Honeycutt

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Anyone know any good responses to Akasofu 2010: On the recovery from the Little Ice Age?

I'm not finding much.

2011-05-24 08:30:22
Alex C

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Don't know of any responses, but of course if you recall our little chat with sbvor (how can one not?), I had a look at the paper and was very unimpressed by it.  There is absolutely no quantification of many of the elements they discuss, and they automatically assume linear recovery when it's quite obvious the temperature trend during the past couple centuries has not been as such.  The AMO extrapolation also fails to take into account various other factors that may have helped to contribute to the definition of the AMO aside form the cycle itself, such as mid-century cooling due to aerosols and present warming due to CO2.

I think though that finding a formal rebuttal would be best.  I will be busy for a while and might not be able to help, but maybe someone else can.

Out of curiosity, is it because of sbvor that you ask?

2011-05-24 08:44:28
Rob Honeycutt

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Oh yes.  He finally managed to post a link to the paper instead of his website.  As soon as I saw the paper I recognized the last diagram.  Reading through it I'm surprised that it was (supposedly) peer reviewed.  There are some errors and really weird insertions...  i.e., GISP2 is not useful for determining 20th century temps.  Duh, of course since the data ends in the mid-1800s.  

But, I'm having a good old time haranguing sbvor.  And the video is still getting a fair number of views.

2011-05-24 09:04:49
dana1981
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I vaguely recall skimming over that paper, and thinking it was pretty dumb.  Didn't mention it in the LIA recovery rebuttal, but you might find it useful anyway.

2011-05-24 11:52:37Tom Curtis did a 3-part rebuttal
Daniel Bailey
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http://bybrisbanewaters.blogspot.com/2010/12/have-we-recovered-yet.html

2011-05-24 12:33:10
Rob Honeycutt

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Perfect, Daniel! Thanks.
2011-05-24 14:43:11
Ari Jokimäki

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Good timing! Just yesterday I published this. Check out the first paper in the list - it was published day before yesterday.