2010-11-24 00:46:24Scientists organise and the Republicans get climate friendly??
Paul D

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An interesting article originating in The Gaudion:

http://environmentalresearchweb.org/cws/article/news/44396

2010-11-24 02:24:23Scientists organize, yes ... but only out-of-office Republicans get climate friendly
Ned

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The Ville, thanks for that link.

I've got to take issue, though.  The author of that article was able to find two "climate-friendly" Republicans to quote.

The first was Sherwood Boehlert, who was a sincerely good and moderate man but who retired from Congress a few years ago.  

The second was Bob Inglis, who lost his Congressional seat to a more-extreme Tea Party candidate ... in large part because he was perceived as too moderate by the GOP primary voters.

So ... all the "climate friendly" Republicans appear to be retired, whether voluntarily or involuntarily.

2010-11-24 11:08:56exactly
dana1981
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Exactly Ned - "a few Republicans are beginning to question the new party line on rejecting any evidence that humans are changing the climate" - they just all happen to be out of political office.
2010-11-25 00:31:59
Ned

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I knew that Sherwood Boehlert was a good guy, but it's been interesting to read a bit about (soon-to-be-former) Rep. Inglis.  For example, I had no idea that had made trips to Antarctica (one of which, apparently, was instrumental in convincing him of the reality of climate change).

 


Inglis reflected on several blasphemies he committed in the eyes of voters in a departing interview last week, held in his congressional office. They ranged from opposing President George W. Bush's troop surge in Iraq to supporting his Troubled Asset Relief Program. But none of those, Inglis said, had as strong an impact as his assertions that atmospheric warming is a scientific certainty.

"The most enduring heresy was just saying that climate change was real," he said. "That was the one that was most damaging, I'm convinced."

"For many conservatives, it became the marker that you had crossed to Satan's side -- that you had left God and gone to Satan's side on climate change," he added, "because many evangelical Christians in our district would say that it's up to God to determine the length of Earth, and therefore, you are invading the province of God."

When Inglis packs up his wind turbine, a working display, in 100 Cannon House Office Building and departs Congress next month, the House will see perhaps its most outspoken Republican climate believer leave office. [...]

"It really is odd to realize ... that gee, there are not many of ya. It's so weird," Inglis said, calling it a "small fraternity" of Republican believers.

One of them is Rep. Vern Ehlers (R-Mich.), a physicist who is retiring at year's end after serving eight terms in the House. Sometimes he reviews climate science with curious Republican colleagues. Usually, though, they take their cues from ideological sources.

[...]

[Former congressional staffer David Hunter says:]  "Inglis was exceptional for his bravery in standing up for what he believes is right for climate change."

Before his two visits to Antarctica, Inglis "pooh-poohed" Al Gore and his ideas about climate change. His five children also played a large role in changing his mind, an admission that earned him criticism from constituents and talk radio.

"He was prepared to put aside any preconceptions," said Scott Heron, who studies coral health as a scientist contracted by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

"That was something that was a little bit different from some members of Congress that I had a chance to meet," said Heron, who met Inglis on an Australian reef expedition. "I feel like the difference that Bob shows is he has his eyes open."



2010-11-25 17:09:27shame
dana1981
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You have to admire Inglis, being one of very few Republican politicians willing to acknowledge the realities of climate change.  Especially since he was a very conservative politician from a very conservative state, and clearly it ended up costing him his job.  I'm glad he's been willing to be outspoken about it.

It's a really sad state of affairs, that Republican politicians today have to toe the ultra-conservative party line on every issue or risk being called a RINO and booted out of office.  I still remember the immediate backlash against the 8 Republican congressmen who voted for cap and trade.  There was an immediate right-wing campaign to kick them out of office.  Though it turned out that 7 of the 8 were either re-elected, elevated to the Senate or made Secretary of the Army (Mike Castle being the lone loser, thanks to the brief popularity of Christine "I'm not a witch" O'Donnell).  Inglis voted against cap and trade, by the way, so we shouldn't give him too much credit.  He talks the talk, but he didn't walk the walk.  That makes it even worse - you're not even allowed to acknowledge the scientific reality even if you vote against the legislation.  Republicans demand total ideological purity.