2010-09-29 23:26:34The psychology og global warming video
werecow

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEkWxPHb-g8

 

Can I embed this? Let's try:

 


2010-09-30 04:10:41
doug_bostrom

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Oh, boy, this is sweetly stylish as well as communicative of some really important fundamentals. The pacing is excellent, allowing for reasonable uptake. The combination of speech and visual reinforcement is terrific, actually makes video worth it, all too rare. 

Nice job.

My spouse is presently refreshing a syllabus for a climate change communications course for graduate public policy students. This is going straight to her.

Should be encouraged viewing for the general SkS audience; understanding these concepts is the way forward for moving people who offer hope of tractability.  

2010-09-30 06:11:47One point that wasn't totally familiar
nealjking

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was that people generally fear loss more than they anticipate gain.

That works against us when we have to advocate spending money now to prevent problems in the future.

But if we can financially quantify losses from AGW, maybe we can use that factor to help make the case for prevention/alleviation.

2010-09-30 10:54:39
doug_bostrom

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One problem w/that quantification is that economists cannot agree on the equivalent of "2+2" in their world, Neal, not to the extent of providing a consensus. The Stern Review was perhaps the best effort so far at producing such prognosis, was set upon by adherents of various means of discounting. It's probably a good rough guess but enough doubt was cast on it to produce the usual "let's study it some more" response. No equivalently richly detailed followup has been produced. 

So, in light of that, maybe better to stick w/highly localized examples of costs. That London adaptation thing I did essentially was a stab at indirection in that fashion, a way of getting past endless uncontextualized talk of climate change. 

2010-09-30 14:09:58
doug_bostrom

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Bummer, video is now "privatized." For those of us not subordinating our relationships to commercialized social contact interlopers, a problem.
2010-09-30 15:41:07Dang!
John Cook

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Had watching that video on the to-do list, now the window of opportunity has snapped shut
2010-09-30 20:50:46
werecow

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Yeah, they re-upped it, but due to "copyright restrictions" you can only view it in the US - or at least not in the Netherlands, where I live. I managed to snatch a copy earlier, though.  For those of you in the US:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gdsHYGYMCU

2010-09-30 21:10:39
werecow

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Woops, actually, it's Australia, not the US; it's from the University of New South Wales. I guess the accent should've tipped me off. }|:op
2010-09-30 23:26:51
doug_bostrom

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That's a crying shame, this would have gone down a treat w/Ann's CCC class. 

Copyright? Where is it available for sale, and if it isn't, what's the point of making it artificially scarce?  

Another topic...

 

2010-10-01 12:46:01
werecow

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Yup. And just to taunt you, I'll add another version of it, which I also can't see.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gdsHYGYMCU

 

It's kind of like that carrot hanging from a stick, only they're violently raping us with it. I expect them to re-upload it at least 3 more times before they get bored with it.

 

Then again, I already have a copy, so what am I complaining about?

 

EDIT: But in all seriousness, given the slickness of it, I suspect they might want to put it on TV at some point. Maybe that's why it's marked private.

2010-10-02 01:06:03
doug_bostrom

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Suddenly struck me, why don't I just write Ben Newell and ask him what the deal is?

Voila, here's the unencumbered version, free for us all to view:

Global Warming: Science and the Message

So much for all my ranting about intellectual property. Somebody hand me a rag...

2010-10-03 00:32:00
werecow

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Ah, nice. I'll try that embedding thing again, cause it's awesome.

 

 

 

 BTW, does anyone have a link to the paper/papers he's discussing?

2010-10-03 04:58:17
doug_bostrom

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Ah, yes, the paper! Good point. Here it is:

The Psychology of Global Warming: Improving the Fit Between the Science and the Message

The paper and the video are based on bog-standard, decently tested and reliable understanding of human cognition. Bottom line: To the extent these fundamentals are ignored, the more we fail.  

2010-10-07 05:43:34
werecow

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Cheers.