2011-01-24 04:23:54Perception of climate change risk depends on world-view
Paul D

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Interesting article about how different groups of people in society perceive climate science:

http://environmentalresearchweb.org/cws/article/news/44825


2011-01-24 04:31:29
nealjking

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The Ville,

It would save a little time for everyone if you would link the URL to text, so one could go there without copying & pasting. You can use the "chain link" icon above: 2nd row, 6th item, after highlighting text, to insert the URL.

 

Neal

2011-01-24 04:34:31
nealjking

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OK, I guess the message is that we have to get a few key conservatives to accept reality.
2011-01-24 10:14:17Key conservatives
John Cook

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Another important demographic is Christians - there's a strong overlap between conservative politics and Christians. I've been thinking about whether as a Christian, I should be talking to church groups about climate change. It's well documented that people are more receptive to messages if they perceive the messenger shares their values. But it's just a matter of finding the time to fit that in.
2011-01-24 19:11:02
nealjking

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I think that is a positive approach. SkS can address the logic, but what will change the situation is changing the worldview.
2011-01-24 21:07:16
Paul D

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John I think the religion line is somewhat mirky.

In the UK there is a recognition that climate change will affect the poor and developing countries a great deal.
My understanding is that the American Evangelist community is more inclined to oppose the AGW idea, from what I can make out it is due to literal interpretations of the bible and the idea that the Earth is a sort of playground for humans and if we harm it, it is either meant to be or God will sort the problem out (that we couldn't have possibly caused) with an 'act of God'.

In contrast our local Anglican diocese is very aware of climate change, issuing a statement about the duty to do something about it and publishing an article in their newspaper about climate change with a photo of a Portsmouth church swamped by the sea. They also attended meetings of the local environment group.

2011-01-24 23:49:55God will sort the problem out
John Cook

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I'm getting that line of thought from a nutter who is stalking me on Twitter:

http://twitter.com/#!/gopthinking/status/29425050167803904

@skepticscience U say u are a Christian, but u Don't think GOD is in charge? I think he would be rather humored with ur assertions!

So the arch-conservative Christians are a tough crowd, probably unreachable. But there is a lot of middle ground that is reachable. Something to think about anyway. I'm talking to one Christian climate group in North Dakota about sharing resources, will be interested to see where this goes.

2011-01-25 01:29:09
nealjking

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There is an old joke about this sort of situation:

A preacher is living in an area threatened by floods. One of his neighbors comes by, and offers to take him and his essentials out. He replies, "No, thank you: God will provide."

The waters rise, up to the level of his porch. A man in a boat comes by, and offers him a ride. He replies, "No, thank you: God will provide!"

The waters rise up to the level of his second floor. He is staying in the attic, sitting by the window. A helicopter comes to the house, and lowers a rope ladder. He replies, "No, thank you! God will surely provide!"

Then the waters rise even further, and the house is unmoored and washed away; and he drowns.

When he gets to the pearly gates, he requests a meeting with God. When he sees Him, he asks: "God, I have relied on You all of my life. I have preached in your name, and I have turned away all worldly reliance. How could you abandon me in my hour of need? Why couldn't you give me a break?"

To which, God replied: "I sent a car, a boat, and a helicopter. Why don't you give Me a break?"

 

 

 

2011-02-07 04:59:29
citizenschallenge
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That's a cute joke, now you just have to figure out how to fit it into twitter text.   :-)
2011-02-07 05:23:25
nealjking

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Is it useful to transmit a link by tweet? "How God saved the minister from the floods => URL"
2011-02-07 09:40:18Should there be a climate change version of this joke?
John Cook

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Preacher: "God, why didn't you warn me about climate change?!?!"

God: "I sent you mountains of peer-reviewed science, oceans of evidence, multitudes of scientific organisations and a consensus of climate experts. Why didn't you listen?"

2011-02-07 11:44:01
nealjking

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Sorry, John, it's accurate - but it ain't funny.