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2011-12-05 09:06:31 | Weekly Digest | |
dana1981 Dana Nuccitelli dana1981@yahoo... 71.137.110.252 |
I'm headed off for AGU shortly, so here's the info for SkS in the News: Rob Painting's Arctic Sea Ice Hockey Stick: Melt Unprecedented in Last 1,450 years was re-posted on Climate Progress, which also referenced Dana's post Schmittner et al. (2011) on Climate Sensitivity - the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly. John Cook and Stephan Lewandowsky's Debunking Handbook is widly popular, with over 220,000 downloads in its first 5 days, and re-posts by countless websites, including DeSmogBlog, Think Progress, Daily Kos, Planet 3.0, ClimateBites, and many others. The handbook has even been suggested for debunking other types of myths by Richard Dawkins and others.
Daniel - maybe you can publish this when it's ready? If not, I'll probably be able to publish it late tonight. | |
2011-12-05 10:37:06 | ||
Daniel Bailey Daniel Bailey yooper49855@hotmail... 97.83.150.37 |
Sure, dana. Is John Hartz still putting the weekly digests together (I've been battling the double-whammy of a sinus infection and an ear infection for a couple of weeks now, so I"ve been a bit out of it)? If so, I can publish it whenever it's ready. | |
2011-12-05 12:43:45 | Daniel Bailey | |
John Hartz John Hartz john.hartz@hotmail... 98.122.98.161 |
I'm in the processes of putting it together -- got a late start on it today. It should be ready soon. BTW, would you do me a favor and take a gander at the comment thread to "What Will Become Of The Kyoto Climate Treaty?" posted on NPR and let me know how I am doing. | |
2011-12-05 12:57:19 | Daniel Bailey | |
John Hartz John Hartz john.hartz@hotmail... 98.122.98.161 |
Est fini! Click here. | |
2011-12-05 13:52:01 | ||
Daniel Bailey Daniel Bailey yooper49855@hotmail... 97.83.150.37 |
Looks good; published. | |
2011-12-05 14:03:30 | ||
Daniel Bailey Daniel Bailey yooper49855@hotmail... 97.83.150.37 |
You will never get anywhere with this one directly.
Example: In his previous comment, Mark Fraser (MarkyBaby22) exposed his ideological bias through his allegations of fraud and dishonesty (hilited in red in the quote below):
Why is it when the facts are against people they then expose their underlying bias by resorting to attacking that which upsets them? | |
2011-12-05 14:55:45 | ||
Glenn Tamblyn glenn@thefoodgallery.com... 144.131.30.68 |
John Ypu've got yourself into a bit of a knot here. In your discussion about Fig 7 you have said that the graphs are of lower troposphere temps. This isn't accurate. The UAH & RSS numbers a LT, but the other curves, HadCRU etc are surface - usually taken 2 metres above the ground as a meteorological station on land, and from ships buoys and satellites of Sea Surface Temps in the oceans. So they are temps of the ocean, but strictly only the surface. And that is what is used for measuring the Global temp trend since we can't get sea surface air temps.
Perhaps a better tack to take if you are arguing the slowdown is to use Heat Content from the oceans and then compare 0-700m vs 0-2000m It looks like a big part of the slowdown of surface temps over the last decade has been due to increased circulation in the ocean drawing more heat down below the 700m layer, warming those lower layers but retarding warming in the upper layers and hence surface warming. | |
2011-12-05 15:41:21 | Daniel Bailey & Glenn Tamblyn | |
John Hartz John Hartz john.hartz@hotmail... 98.122.98.161 |
Thanks for the feedback. It appears that I screwed this one up -- partly because Advanced Rebuttal was not very well written nor the graphs adequately explained. |