2011-09-09 13:32:41Just Desserts: Winning the 2011 Eureka Prize [Guest Post by Bern]
Daniel Bailey
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http://www.skepticalscience.com/Eureka_Prize_Winner_2011.html

Just Deserts: Winning the 2011 Eureka Prize

Posted on 10 September 2011 by Bern

This post was drafted by SkS reader/contributor Bern and represents the entire team of SkS contributors

The Eureka Prizes, presented annually since 1990 by the Australian Museum, have been described as Australia’s “Oscars of Science”.  The prizes recognise and reward excellence in the fields of scientific research & innovation, science leadership, school science and science journalism & communication.

The prizes are sponsored by a wide range of government departments & research organisations, universities, foundations, media organisations and corporations.

John Cook

Skeptical Science’s founder John Cook tweeted on Tuesday that he was attending the gala presentation dinner:

Heading off to #EurekaPrize evening. Exciting & a little surreal

As long-time readers of and participants at Skeptical Science, we were delighted to see the follow-up message:

Am blown away, @skepticscience just won Eureka Prize 4 Advancement of Climate Change Knowledge

The official announcement gives a great rundown of why Skeptical Science was chosen as the winner, despite some stiff competition.

Bern would like to give a shout out a great big “Congratulations!” to John and the supporting crew of contributors, discussion thread participants & moderators here at Skeptical Science.  It’s well deserved recognition for what is, in his opinion, one of the most useful sites in the world of Climate Science. 

The Skeptical Science team of contributors would also like to congratulate John on the well-deserved recognition of his success in creating and developing SkS, and providing continued excellent leadership in directing the SkS team.  We will strive to continue providing content at the level which helped the site win the Eureka Prize.

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2011-09-09 17:08:22Photo
BaerbelW

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Just a nit-pick: If the SkS-post contains the picture of John in a tux, the reference to ClimateProgress doesn't need to highlight this also.
2011-09-09 17:16:54
Rob Painting
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Let's not piss-arse around - thumbs up from me.

2011-09-09 18:37:24
Bern

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I think the other media reports mentioned in the general thread need to be added in, too.  I'd recommend leaving out the links to anti-congratulation articles, they're bitter enough to sour anyone's grapes...

BaerbelW: Daniel kindly added that pic in when he posted the article here, so, yes, that comment should be deleted.

2011-09-09 20:39:56
Daniel Bailey
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Fixed per above

2011-09-09 22:27:11
nealjking

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Daniel,

Not a big complaint, but it seems a little odd to have this written in the 1st-person singular voice, doesn't it? It almost makes it seem like the article is too focused on the writer and not the award.

Another approach would be to use "we" instead of "I", and modify the ending.

But if nobody else cares about this, don't bother.

2011-09-10 01:38:11
dana1981
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I agree on changing "I" to "we".  Looks good to me otherwise.

2011-09-10 01:58:23
Daniel Bailey
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Revised to plural.  This changes the tenor of the post somewhat, so it will need a full re-read.

2011-09-10 02:37:45
BaerbelW

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Duplicate words in the first paragraph:

The prizes recognise and reward excellence in the reward excellence in the fields of scientific research & innovation, science leadership, school science and science journalism & communication.

 

Singular or Plural

If the post is from one person - currently it shows Bern - than "I" is better then "we" and the post is a kind of personal note. If, on the other hand the author could be changed to something like "the SkS-Team", "we" would be okay. But, is this post supposed to be from the team to John or from a reader to the whole team or from the team to the readers?

Also, the last paragraph doesn't sound quite right if the post is written in the plural (who exactly is "we"?):

SkS readers have learned an enormous amount about the science of Climate Change from the site, and the efforts of all here are greatly appreciated!

This can sound condescending if viewed with the eyes of "our" local "skeptics" as they most likely don't think that they as "SkS readers" have learned much if anything.

Hope this helps.....

2011-09-10 03:20:53
Andy S

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I always have to have one nit-pick: The correct spelling in the title should be "Just Deserts", meaning John got what he deserved, not an extra helping of pudding. See here.

I agree with Baerbel's concerns about the last paragraph. It's certainly true that I learned a lot about climate as a reader here but I think I've learned even more as a writer and editor.

Perhaps the authorship could be changed to "Bern and the SkS team".

2011-09-10 03:30:56
dana1981
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It's a challenge meshing it because Bern wrote it from his perspective, but we want it to represent the whole SkS team.  I tried breaking it up, keeping Bern's comments, but adding a message on behalf of SkS contributors at the end as well.  Have another look, see if it works.

2011-09-10 03:43:49
Daniel Bailey
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Fixed links.

2011-09-10 03:48:02
nealjking

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"We’d like to shout out a great big “Congratulations!” to John and the supporting crew of contributors, discussion thread participants & moderators here at Skeptical Science.  It’s well deserved recognition for what is, in our opinion, one of the most useful sites in the world of Climate Science. 

We’ve learned an enormous amount about the science of Climate Change since we’ve been visiting SkS, and the efforts of all here are greatly appreciated!"

The problem is that we have to draw some kind of distinction between the "we" that are congratulating and the "we" that are being (along with JC) congratulated. A bit more thought is needed: Who is doing what to whom?

2011-09-10 04:15:32we
dana1981
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It doesn't say "we" anymore neal.  See the updated post.

2011-09-10 04:21:28
nealjking

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Very good, one small proposal:

"directing the SkS team" => "guiding the SkS team"

 

There is a subtle difference.

2011-09-10 04:25:55
Andy S

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Yes, it's fine now, except for the spelling in the title....

2011-09-10 04:34:11
Daniel Bailey
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Fixed title (I learned something today after all)

2011-09-10 05:14:49guiding
dana1981
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Good point, changed 'directing' to 'guiding'.

Planning to post this tonight, so get any last comments in.

2011-09-10 05:30:49Thanks Bern, Dana
Daniel Bailey
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Heading off to camp, so my input period is done :)

Best to all!

2011-09-10 06:01:45
nealjking

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"Bern would like to give a shout out a great big “Congratulations!” "

The punctuation of this phrase is suspect: Don't you need a colon, or an "and" or something?

2011-09-10 06:03:20
dana1981
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Yeah - fixed.

2011-09-10 06:06:58
nealjking

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OK

Neal

2011-09-10 06:23:45
BaerbelW

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Reads well!

2011-09-10 08:05:04
Glenn Tamblyn

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no nits to pick. Good to go.

2011-09-10 20:07:46
Bern

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Edits read well - saw it on the live site just now (been digging in the garden all day, moving plants & exhuming a cat in preparation for some major landscaping next week).

Sorry if I had any typos or poor grammar in the original - I bashed it out in about 10 minutes at work, between answering emails & phone calls from unreasonable clients...  :-)