Does anyone feel qualfied to critique Spencer's knee jerk response to Dessler, on his blog right now?

On some issues, but there's still a question about the ocean heat transport vs. TOA flux change due to clouds numbers.  We're discussing it in Gen Chat.

Barry Bickmore covered some of the other problems in Spencer's response here.

Think that we had better hold off until we can clarify the ocean temperature issue with Dessler.

From Roy's latest post.  An update that may be important to our posts

UPDATE: I have been contacted by Andy Dessler, who is now examining my calculations, and we are working to resolve a remaining difference there. Also, apparently his paper has not been officially published, and so he says he will change the galley proofs as a result of my blog post; here is his message:

“I’m happy to change the introductory paragraph of my paper when I get the galley proofs to better represent your views. My apologies for any misunderstanding. Also, I’ll be changing the sentence “over the decades or centuries relevant for long-term climate change, on the other hand, clouds can indeed cause significant warming” to make it clear that I’m talking about cloud feedbacks doing the action here, not cloud forcing.”

Iÿ'm not sure if this effects us or not, but someone should probably contact Andy Dessler to see if we need to change or update our posts before \"official\" publication.

Those two changes won't impact our posts.  I believe the first is talking about Dessler saying Spencer claimed cloud changes caused ENSO, which we didn't mention.  The second is clarifying that clouds, although not a forcing, are a feedback.  Something we already knew, but didn't discuss either.

It will be interesting to see what comes from the ocean heat transport/cloud TOA discussion.  That would impact our posts, but we can publish a revision if necessary.  I think it's pretty clear that if anything, the value is closer to Dessler's than Spencer's.  It would be great if Spencer admitted that after they work out the discrepancy.