2011-06-23 23:45:16New Zealand Snow No Show = No Jobs
Rob Painting
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Wrote this post after reading this article in one of our local rags, and typically, no mention of global warming. Can't have that can we?

2011-06-23 23:49:14
nealjking

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Rob, read past the photo.

2011-06-24 00:01:20
Rob Painting
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Neal, you'll have to be less cryptic. Are you referring to the snow higher up?

2011-06-24 00:03:15
Alex C

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Perhaps Neal mistook your article on it, Rob, for the Herald's?  You weren't terribly clear on which you were linking to.

2011-06-24 00:04:03
Rob Painting
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Or are you talking about the ski season in Australia which is fine after a cold spell?

2011-06-24 00:05:25
Rob Painting
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Aw....yeah. Clear as mud. Now fixed.

2011-06-24 01:48:21
Steve Brown

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I'm a snowboarder and usually do a couple of weeks in France every year.  This season just gone has been very warm with little snow.  I remember landing in Geneva in 1st week of Jan and it was like summer (17oC) IIRC.  The whole valley around Morzine where we stayed was still pasture with cows on it up to around 1800m.  Where there was snow above 1800 it was usually a slushfest from late morning.  The spring conditions went all the way through till Feb and even then snowfall was patchy.  However, Austria and Scotland seemed to get a bumper load all the way through.

2011-06-24 06:34:39
dana1981
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You say you're not suggesting it's the start of a new trend, but aren't you suggesting it's part of an ongoing trend of decreasing snowfall?

It would be nice to add some projections of how winter snowfall is expected to decrease in a warming world in various regions, if we can find it somewhere.

2011-06-24 07:19:44
Rob Painting
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Dana, a couple of years back we had a poor start to the snow season, but things came right later on. I'm not suggesting it's a trend in decreasing snowfall either, although the worldwide trend is down. All I'm trying to get across (obviously not very well) is that, at some point, this is going to become the new normal and jobs will be lost in the snow tourism sector. That's why I've kept it as brief as possible.

One of the hyperlinks (not just in New Zealand) is to a NZ study of projected declines in snowfall, and there a handful of others that deal with the likely affects to snow tourism. D'ya think I should incorporate one of the studies projection graphics into the post?

Steve - yeah, just across the ditch in Awwstrahleea, they're having a great start to the ski season because of a cold snap. 

2011-06-24 07:58:15
dana1981
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Yeah Rob, Figure 8 from that report is pretty good.  It would be nice to add some concrete evidence that snowfall is going to decrease.

2011-06-24 10:39:41
Rob Painting
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Figure added. I would like to have added one from New Zealand, but those NIWA projected snow cover maps are hopeless. 

2011-06-24 11:21:13
Andy S

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There's a reference on this page (scroll down) referring to the effect of climate change on skiing in France. It's hardly peer-reviewsd quality, to say the least. There's apparently an OECD report on climate change and skiing in Yurp. Executive summary here.

2011-06-26 02:53:28
dana1981
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About ready to post this one, Rob?

2011-06-26 08:36:50
Rob Painting
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Yeah, I think so. Still no snow. Queenstown, our winter tourist Mecca, opened their winter festival yesterday and the skifields are closed. Hopefully the snow turns up soon, they'll be losing muchos dolares.