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2011-05-08 05:28:18 | Lindzen Illusion #7: The Anti-Galileo | |
dana1981 Dana Nuccitelli dana1981@yahoo... 69.230.97.203 |
The Lindzen summation post: Lindzen Illusion #7: The Anti-Galileo | |
2011-05-08 06:08:47 | ||
logicman logicman_alf@yahoo.co... 86.147.180.253 |
That gets a thumb from me - and a cartoon: http://vademecum.brandenberger.eu/grafiken/klima/stretching.gif from page - | |
2011-05-08 06:23:18 | ||
nealjking nealjking@gmail... 84.151.39.140 |
"flawed vision" => "dim" or "cloudy vision" "anti-Galileo" => "Pope Urban VIII" | |
2011-05-08 06:36:01 | ||
Riccardo riccardoreitano@tiscali... 93.147.82.143 |
Very good summary. You may add somewhere that there's nothing wrong of being wrong in science. The problem is when you fail to see your mistake that others (or reality!) point you at. And yes, Galileo was right, as it was recognized by other scientists of the time, like Keplero just to name one.It was only the Catholic Church and a bunch of scientists linked to it that got stuck to the litteral interpretation of the Bible. A bit of history of meteorology. Thank to Galileo, in the mid XVII century the Accademia del Cimento was founded in Florence by Galileo's students. It set up the first meteorological network where temperature and pressure were measured using standard instruments (invented by them) and procedures. The network included Paris, London, Innsbruck (Austria) and Warsaw. Definitely the first european meteorological network. | |
2011-05-08 06:43:22 | thanks | |
dana1981 Dana Nuccitelli dana1981@yahoo... 69.230.97.203 |
logicman - I'm sure the deniers love that one. neal - I presume that was the Pope who persecuted Galileo? I don't know if that's a good analogy. Lindzen isn't persecuting anyone. He doesn't have that much power. They were both on the wrong side of the scientific evidence though. Riccardo - good points. I'll add those into the post. | |
2011-05-08 06:46:52 | ||
nealjking nealjking@gmail... 84.151.39.140 |
There's an Italian physics journal called "Nuovo Cimento". What does "Cimento" mean? | |
2011-05-08 07:35:29 | ||
Riccardo riccardoreitano@tiscali... 93.147.82.143 |
cimento indicates a feat, a hard try.The motto of the Accademia del Cimento was "try and try again". In modern italian it's almost exclusevely used as a verb. | |
2011-05-08 07:57:44 | ||
Albatross Julian Brimelow stomatalaperture@gmail... 199.126.232.206 |
Good God Dana, you are a machine! | |
2011-05-08 08:44:42 | Resistance is futile | |
Daniel Bailey Daniel Bailey yooper49855@hotmail... 97.83.150.37 |
I loved this bit:
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2011-05-08 10:46:14 | ||
Glenn Tamblyn glenn@thefoodgallery.com... 124.181.32.201 |
Small typo
"nothing wrong of with being mistaken in science" Great summary. Suggestion. When this series is finished, could it be built into a pdf that can be distributed?
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2011-05-08 16:10:56 | ||
Rob Painting Rob paintingskeri@vodafone.co... 118.93.30.92 |
Sweeeeet. | |
2011-05-09 02:47:11 | ||
mcba m.ashley@unsw.edu... 129.94.163.229 |
Suggest changing: "There is of course nothing wrong of being mistaken in science." to "There is, of course, nothing wrong with being occasionally mistaken in science." Otherwise, some very nice wordsmithing in this article! | |
2011-05-09 03:05:41 | Something tells me that you're lying about your injury and the inability to type. | |
Alex C coultera@umich... 67.149.101.148 |
Good job, nice summary of the arguments. One other small typo: "he has effectively admitted that he was wrong on thee points" >>"he has effectively admitted that he was wrong on three points" and: "...other scientists or by nature. Especially when we're asked to believe that he is right and virtually every other scientific expert is wrong." >>"...other scientists or by nature, especially when we're asked to believe that he is right and virtually every other scientific expert is wrong." | |
2011-05-09 05:14:33 | thanks | |
dana1981 Dana Nuccitelli dana1981@yahoo... 69.230.97.203 |
Thanks guys, will fix those typos. Alex - nope, I'm just getting good at typing with this splint on (gotta wear it for another week). i still type normally with the right hand, and peck with my left hand middle finger. It does slow me down a bit, and cause a few more typos, but I do okay. Glenn -I'm sure we could make a PDF if there's a demand for it. Not sure the series will ever technically be finished, since Lindzen isn't going to stop spewing crap, but #7 is a natural break point. | |
2011-05-09 05:19:05 | MSM | |
dana1981 Dana Nuccitelli dana1981@yahoo... 69.230.97.203 |
Oh by the way, at some point in the next few days I'll simplify this into a mainstream media version too. | |
2011-05-11 09:52:55 | ||
dana1981 Dana Nuccitelli dana1981@yahoo... 64.129.227.4 |
I tweaked the ending a bit. I'll do the MSM version Thursday, since I'm taking the day off for my b-day. John also made a pretty sweet LI button, and we're going to launch the Lindzen page along with this post on Thursday (USA time). Let me know if there are any more comments. | |
2011-05-11 10:02:32 | ||
Daniel Bailey Daniel Bailey yooper49855@hotmail... 97.83.150.37 |
Happy birthday, Dana! | |
2011-05-11 10:36:59 | ||
Albatross Julian Brimelow stomatalaperture@gmail... 199.126.232.206 |
Happy B'day Dana...hope that you have a blast. | |
2011-05-11 11:15:16 | Lindzen Illusion button | |
John Cook john@skepticalscience... 124.187.6.188 |
Was going for the 'cheap magician' theme: Will encourage other bloggers to use the button. | |
2011-05-11 11:27:20 | Nice! | |
Daniel Bailey Daniel Bailey yooper49855@hotmail... 97.83.150.37 |
Looks like you're using a Harry Potter-esque font. | |
2011-05-11 11:52:43 | ||
Rob Painting Rob paintingskeri@vodafone.co... 118.92.102.228 |
Happy birthday Dana. Do cyclons dream of electric sheep?. | |
2011-05-11 12:00:40 | Nicely played | |
Daniel Bailey Daniel Bailey yooper49855@hotmail... 97.83.150.37 |
Now you're mixing him up with Bladerunner... (Nugget: Edward James Olmos played Gaff in Bladerunner and Adama in the Battlestar Galactica reboot) | |
2011-05-11 12:26:18 | ||
nealjking nealjking@gmail... 84.151.43.157 |
With that font & the magic theme, you could go back to my original proposal: Lindzen's Legerdemain! | |
2011-05-11 13:10:06 | ||
Rob Painting Rob paintingskeri@vodafone.co... 118.92.102.228 |
Yooper - mixing strictly intentional. Neal - legemawhat?. | |
2011-05-11 14:39:37 | ||
dana1981 Dana Nuccitelli dana1981@yahoo... 69.230.97.203 |
Thanks guys.
And that's why we didn't go with Legerdemain ;-) | |
2011-05-11 14:45:42 | I did download some Harry Potter fonts | |
John Cook john@skepticalscience... 124.187.6.188 |
When trying different looks, I used a few Harry Potter fonts - I ended up using "Magic School One" (can't remember where I got it from). I was trying to capture the feel of magician posters (Dana suggested adding the crescent moons). | |
2011-05-11 23:25:20 | ||
nealjking nealjking@gmail... 84.151.33.91 |
leg·er·de·main/ˌlejərdəˈmān/Noun1. Skillful use of one's hands when performing tricks.
2. Deception; trickery. | |
2011-05-13 12:34:53 | It's comments like this that make it all worthwhile :-) | |
John Cook john@skepticalscience... 124.187.6.188 |
~Qt~ at 09:47 AM on 13 May, 2011
By the way, I love the Lindzen's Illusions button!!! | |
2011-05-13 12:55:24 | ||
dana1981 Dana Nuccitelli dana1981@yahoo... 69.230.97.203 |
Damn skippy. The button rocks! |