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2011-04-06 07:33:22 | Thoughts requested on a "monthly climate" summary | |
Michael Searcy scentofpine@yahoo... 72.91.144.96 |
There's so much reesearch and activity going on continually with regard to climate change, it's difficult for even those of us diligently paying attention to keep up, and pretty much impossible for those with less interest. With that in mind, I thought about putting together a "monthly climate summary" report. I used to post a weekly summary of headlines, but it became burdensome. I am thinking a monthly approach might be more feasible. Here's a sample post for March 2011 and a downloadable PDF version. Do you guys think this information would be of interest to SkS readers in an SkS branded version? | |
2011-04-06 15:13:29 | ||
Rob Painting Rob paintingskeri@vodafone.co... 118.93.221.247 |
Most definitely, I think it would a fantastic idea. It's very important to keep beaming out the message that climate change is here, it's happening now, and humanity had better start to pull it's head out of it's backside. | |
2011-04-06 15:17:16 | Agreed | |
Daniel Bailey Daniel Bailey yooper49855@hotmail... 97.83.150.37 |
...before it's too late. | |
2011-04-06 15:22:53 | Ditto | |
dana1981 Dana Nuccitelli dana1981@yahoo... 69.230.97.203 |
Yes this sounds like a useful idea. Summaries are always good! | |
2011-04-06 15:26:22 | ||
Ari Jokimäki arijmaki@yahoo... 192.100.112.210 |
I'm currently doing a weekly news thing and people seem to like it very much, so I think it's a good idea. | |
2011-04-06 16:05:34 | Excellent Idea | |
Glenn Tamblyn glenn@thefoodgallery.com... 124.181.111.236 |
Sounds fantastic. Also what might be useful would then linking this to any relevent and applicable posts here at SkS and other key sites. Linking the Blogosphere to the outside world. The contents of the summary might also be a generator of posts. So bringing it out a week or so into the next month and possibly a heads-up on expected content might be useful for generating connected posts. | |
2011-04-06 16:59:40 | Two comments | |
John Cook john@skepticalscience... 60.231.60.165 |
No, 3 comments! First, great idea. Second, if you want to do the PDF with SkS branding, let me know what you need and what software you use - I can generate headers and footers for you. Third, my immediate thought upon looking at your monthly report was a weekly one would be even better but that might be too high maintenance. Perhaps combine efforts with Ari? | |
2011-05-23 23:15:19 | April summary posted | |
Michael Searcy scentofpine@yahoo... 72.64.190.117 |
The summary for April has been posted, albeit a bit later than I had planned. April was a pretty wild month. Ari, I reviewed and incorporated some things from your weekly reviews (which are excellent btw) as well as those from Ill Things, The Earth Institute, and Climate Central. You'll notice links to all of the above on the final page of the PDF. John, I'm using PowerPoint to generate the file and associated PDF. So, if you can supply an SkS branded PP template, I'd happily transfer the content if you want to repost here. Glenn, I think these are great ideas. The format and approach are definitely evolving, but I like the direction you're proposing. | |
2011-05-24 06:26:30 | ||
Rob Painting Rob paintingskeri@vodafone.co... 118.92.100.186 |
Mike, I like the image for the April report on your home page. Great stuff!. | |
2011-05-24 06:46:20 | ||
dana1981 Dana Nuccitelli dana1981@yahoo... 64.129.227.4 |
Very good summary. Is there a link between tornadoes and global warming? | |
2011-05-24 07:43:50 | ||
Riccardo riccardoreitano@tiscali... 93.147.82.89 |
Great resource. Well done. | |
2011-05-24 08:07:40 | ||
Michael Searcy scentofpine@yahoo... 72.64.190.117 |
Thanks for the reviews! dana1981, The summary is intended to serve a couple of purposes. The first is to summarize the major climate conditions at the time (e.g. temp, precipitation, significant weather events, etc.). Since people tend to forget major events within a month of their occurrence (unless directly impacted), the inclusion of these conditions is intended as a refresher for historical purposes and to help put other non-weather/climate related events in context. The second is to summarize climate change specific news items, reports, and research papers from that month in an approachable way. Aside from the summary, specific to tornadoes, I tend to subscribe to the mindset that, as the global climate has been fundamentally altered at this point, all weather events, anomalous or otherwise, are related to climate change and that arguing over specific attribution is unproductive. Kind of like raising someone's internal body temperature to unhealthy levels and then debating which system failures are specifically caused by that single change. | |
2011-05-24 09:00:46 | ||
dana1981 Dana Nuccitelli dana1981@yahoo... 64.129.227.4 |
Not that I subscribe to changing article content based on anticipation of denier reactions, but I suspect they'll use this as an excuse to say 'SkS is blaming tornadoes on global warming'. Like I said, I don't really care how deniers will react (just thought I'd mention that because some do), and thought the tornado discussion was very interesting. But it also made me wonder if there was any link between tornadoes and global warming in the scientific literature. I thought I remembered Watts scoffing at the possibility of a link, not that Watts' opinion means diddly squat. Anyway, I just wondered if anyone knew of some research on the subject. We should probably re-post your article pretty soon, since we're getting close to June already! | |
2011-05-24 09:11:00 | ||
grypo gryposaurus@gmail... 173.69.56.151 |
The current research on the link is inconclusive, and believe it or not, not really extensive as it should be. The two major meteorlogical events that fuel the cells are warm air from the Gulf of Mexico and wind sheer from the Arctic coming over the Rockies. The warm air coming is obviously projected to increase the size and strength of tornadoes and the wind sheer is projected to decrease. The problem is that there is no model that can project out far enough to know what the trend will be as we warm. The focus should be on the uncerainty of risk, but include the certainty of warmer air coming upwards. The effect of future interactions isn't clear. Once again we are faced with the problem of trying to explain the uncertainty paradox to people who want exact answers, and when they don't get them, become unreasonable. The best we can do is ask whether these people are willing to take the risk and hope to God they adapt in Tornado Alley. | |
2011-05-24 13:14:26 | ||
Rob Painting Rob paintingskeri@vodafone.co... 118.93.22.51 |
Dana, there is modelling research which indicates that the severe thunderstorms, which spawn tornadoes, will become more frequent. The increase in CAPE (convective available potential energy) outpacing the decline in windshear. As for more tornadoes in the future, haven't run across any literature that suggests such a thing, but an increase in the frequency of severe thunderstorms might signal more tornadoes. Sadly, historical records are poos, so no reliable trends can be discerned. Again, something I have meant to blog about, but haven't got around to, which why I saved these papers: and a couple of others, I haven't got copies of the full papers for: - Will moist convection be stronger in a warmer climate? - Del Genio 2007 | |
2011-05-24 13:46:55 | A weekly summary of SkS articles | |
John Hartz John Hartz john.hartz@hotmail... 98.122.68.19 |
I would also like to see the production of a weekly summary of the articles posted on SkS only, with perhaps a preview of what's in the pipeline. Such a document could easily be reconfigured as a press release which could be sent to certain Progressive (US) websites such as Common Dreams for posting. | |
2011-05-24 14:47:35 | posting tomorrow | |
dana1981 Dana Nuccitelli dana1981@yahoo... 69.230.97.203 |
Thanks for the info guys. I'm going to post this in the morning, if nobody objects. Badger - I like the weekly summary idea, but the question is who has the time to put it together and/or do a press release. | |
2011-05-24 23:08:00 | ||
Michael Searcy scentofpine@yahoo... 72.64.190.117 |
Dana, I didn't realize you had already created a draft post. Please delete the draft I created. Thanks! | |
2011-05-26 01:25:30 | ||
grypo gryposaurus@gmail... 173.69.56.151 |
When looking for answers solely in the science, I think what gets missed is the risk aspect. This is what Trenberth has been trying to tell people. (1)We know that one major aspect of AGW will strengthen tornadoes. (2)The other, wind sheer, which is supposed to lessen due to warming, is less certain. We are therefore unable to get a direct connection. Not knowing much about (2) does not make (1) go away. Also, how do we know when (2) will happen? How do we know the interaction? We don't. It could take decades for (2) to lessen tornadoes, and meanwhile...there's 1500 people missing in Joplin Missouri. The only logical action is to mitigate and adapt to (1). I see no other alternative until the exact effects of (2) are known. Here's Trenberth:
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